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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

Aside from a few members of the IRGC, everybody who has been paying attention for the past 40 years is celebrating. Taking out both Maduro and Khomeini over the course of a few months without a single American or Israeli casualty is peak.

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It was about time. I hope the opposition in Iran takes charge and gets into power before they find another religious leader.

yess, the experience so far makes it obvious. They will be democratic and their gdp will go up by 6900% now. There won't be devastation, people starving to death, meaningless hindsight or anything like that.

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Iran is not an Arab country? Answering a more general question - all countries of former Yugoslavia are better after US intervention. Some Serbs would not agree, but it's on them

In Iran the outcome is yet to be seen, but we have nearby Arab countries where we don't have to guess what happens. Great deflection.

What Arab countries?

How can you compare Arab countries to Iran?

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Why didn't he flee? This was a long time coming

It's definitely odd if he was just sitting in his compound. That's a very, well, known place for him. Surely Iran has plenty of secure underground bunkers for leadership to retreat to?

Fleeing is seen as dishonorable in many parts of the Arab world. Remember the Israeli lies about how Yahya Sinwar dressed in women's clothes and were trying to cross the border to Egypt? In reality he was out in the field with his men killing Israeli soldiers. He died a brave death and Khamenei will now have died one too.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

People celebrating inside Iran too https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2027840034150178952

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You seriously don’t think Iraq is in a better place today than it has ever been? You miss Saddam?

Iraq right now is in roughly the same position as it was when Saddam Hussein was there but in the meantime a few million people died and the country went through a pretty traumatic period.

Plenty of people died under Saddam, too. Do you think the average Iraqi would choose to go back and live under Saddam?

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It's definitely odd if he was just sitting in his compound. That's a very, well, known place for him. Surely Iran has plenty of secure underground bunkers for leadership to retreat to?

Apparently they hit the compound with 30+ bunker busters. So perhaps he was in a bunker but the bombs still got him

Is there a source for this? I haven’t read any of the specifics on the strike.

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Nobody is happy about killing civilians. But Khamenei did more than that every day he was alive. Personally I feel there is some amount of immediate civilian casualty that is worth putting a stop to continuous suffering.

It's easy to excuse the collateral damage of people you will never meet, just remember that this reasoning has unleashed hell on Earth for countless innocent people, many kids, and it makes you sound like a ghoul. Hope to hell that you or anyone you care about isn't on the receiving end of such sentiments.

I remember that the alternative has also unleashed hell on Earth for countless innocent people.

At some point, you have to take the path that offers at least some hope for the future. To turn into something that has lost all hope - there is no fixing that.

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I wonder how old the rest of the commentators are. I watched the Shock and Awe campaign. I watched Saddam fall. I remember thinking this is great. Years later, I understand it was a complete folly. Removing Saddam in itself was good but what it did the wider region was not good.

One thing I notice on here is very few people understand counter intuitive stuff.

As you said.. plenty of evidence where on the surface it seems good. But in reality it turns out to make the people in the region worse off.

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You seriously don’t think Iraq is in a better place today than it has ever been? You miss Saddam?

You seem to forget that Irak instability was a big part of the reason why we got to deal with ISIS in the first place. I say that ISIS was worst than Saddam.

ISIS also broke out of countries like Syria, which nobody messed with until after their civil war and the ISIS takeover. Which is to say that the problem isn’t the Iraq war - but Islam. It’s literally called ISIS - and you blame the US for it?
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