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My wife is late 40s and just deleted her facebook account, and she's the most FOMO person I know - and she did this because of zuck capitulating to trump. A lot of people have had it with companies supporting fascists.

So is she going to also do away with anything related to Elon, Tim and the like?

Yes. She's very serious about it.

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My wife is late 40s and just deleted her facebook account, and she's the most FOMO person I know - and she did this because of zuck capitulating to trump. A lot of people have had it with companies supporting fascists.

> zuck capitulating to trump So did Tim Cook. Is she binning her iPhone?

We don't have iPhones. We ditched Apple a long time ago.

Re: Apple Invites

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Unless they add some basic functionality to include Android users, this is the evilest use of their walled garden yet.

Imagine being a teen with an Android in the Apple Invite age, the bullying will go crazy

As if there was no bullying in any other age? Is Apple's walled garden really the source of this bullying? Teenagers can bully each other about anything.

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What a dumb take gioazzi, great work! Keep making apps that are useful and fun for you. I will definitely recommend your app with my friends

You’re welcome to think that, but it's not a dumb take — it is an aesthetic and technical take (you know, de gustibus non est disputandum ). My attention is valuable (at least to me and those around me), and I choose not to waste that attention on applications that are built with a framework that quite deliberately disrespects the platforms I choose while presenting a badly drawn version of the thinnest layer. On mac…

Well of course as any technical choice this is a compromise These are all very valid points, that we did consider, but I think the alternatives were just not as good.

I feel less strongly about apps not looking like system apps; in fact, I kind of dislike apps that try too hard to look like the settings page: I like when they bring some variety, some personality, something that makes them stand out. Though I agree that broken interactions are unbearable, e.g. apps that break the "swipe back" gesture.

It could have been a web app as well (in fact, the initial version was), but some offline functionality was needed, and service workers messing up caching and iOS not being a great player with PWA, it just ended up being more painful than it should have been.

Or we could have built 3 apps, which I would have loved (but we are a team of 3, and working on a bunch of other things at the same time). Flutter does have a fairly good developer experience (its hot reload cycle is unmatched in my opinion), but of course native development, with all the support libraries you get from the platform, is on a different level. (What even is native though? Is UIKit "more native" than SwiftUI? Is Safari native? And how about the web apps you open in Safari? It's JS code, but at some point it's compiled to ARM instructions, now running from the very same memory pages as Safari, does that make the web app native?)

Having said that, it's not like I need to convince you to try out our app, it's good that we have options and probably Apple Invites is what works best for you!

But out of curiosity, when is the last time you did try out a Flutter app? Because they have been improving a lot, in fact for quite some time they ran better on iOS than on Android thanks to the new Impeller rendering engine (now default on Android as well)[1]

They did some work for accessibility on Web, too.[2]

BTW it's funny you mention React Native, I last built something with it a long time ago... and it wasn't that good - but I just realised I do use some React Native apps right now, so I guess they also improved a lot; I should give it a shot again!

[1]: https://docs.flutter.dev/perf/impeller [2]: https://docs.flutter.dev/ui/accessibility-and-internationali...

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It has. Apple escaped this cycle. Their software is great. Instead of you being the product, you buy the product. People then just complain the product is expensive. On this website, I roll my eyes.

I want nice things, zero cost and complete privacy without adverts. Why is this so hard? /s

It's pretty easy actually - most open source software fits the bill. Quality software can be pretty cheap to make per user.

The only problem is services where hosting costs need to be paid somehow and network effects mean that for-profit competition will win the market even if the product is inevitably enshittified. Doesn't matter how good your open and community funded event platform is if Apple and Facebook can afford to shove their solution in front of everyone you want to interact with.

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This tracks so well as an indicator, with many other products. As soon as the company starts making money, their product is going to become awful and it's time to find an alternative. Why can't tech escape this cycle?

I mean it does escape the cycle, lots of products charge money and aren't awful. The ones that are awful are mostly the ones people don't pay for, or things that use the freemium business model. Most things that just charge a subscription are good and get better.

More like most things that charge a subscription will eventually add ads and other anti-features because that's the only way to satisfy demands for infinite growth once the market has been exhausted.

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I did professional photography on the side for the better part of a decade before needing to go above 2TB. You don't have to hoard.

I agree on photos, but when I hear "larger media library" I assume we're talking video content, both family videos taken on phones and commercial media (TV and Movies). Maybe I'm misreading but either 200GB or 2TB are both very small for a whole family's collection of video media.

Does any significant slice of the population store TV shows and movies on their phones or laptops?

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I can't tell what you're arguing here – are you misunderstanding what you quoted from the FAQ? Only the person who creates the event needs to have an iCloud+ subscription. Everyone else can RSVP to it regardless of whether they have an iCloud+ subscription or even an Apple device at all. > Do invitees need to have an Apple device with the app to attend an event? > Apple Invites is for everyone. Guests don’t need the…

> Apple Invites is for everyone. Guests don’t need the app, an Apple device, or an account to RSVP to an event. Right, so how do they get and respond to the invite? I'm guessing SMS or email, making the whole thing pointless.

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Re: Apple Invites

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In the USA, someone insisting on using an Android when everyone else in their social circle has an iPhone (and they do!) is what's seen as anti-social. No one wants to use the degraded green bubble SMS experience so they simply exclude the Android user and continue using blue bubble iMessage.

It surprises me people who actually have this problem don't just switch to a different messaging app. There are many, and the effort required is minimal.

It's called a network effect for a reason. People don't want to use multiple apps so they generally will want all of their friends to be using the same app. Switching to a different app for one friend group adds significant friction.

This is why we need legally mandated interopability for call communications platforms above a certain size. It's absurd that the situation today is worse than the early 2000's where you could use one program to talk to your ICQ, MSN and Aim friends.

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post #247

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>People don't really read or check emails because spam became a serious problem. With the tabs in Gmail, very little leaks through to my primary inbox that isn't relatively immediately relevant (and not a lot of mail total). Often don't look at Promotions at all and maybe glance at Updates once a day or so. Email is useful for me though, yes, a lot of my interaction with my circle of friends is over texts.

The problem for me is not so much real spam, this gets filtered. The problem is the massive amount of work required to unsubscribe or clean up automated emails from apps and websites, both transactional and non-transactional. I know way too many techy and non-techy people who have thousands of unread email messages from those apps. A lot of people I know don't really answer to real email anymore, unless they know som…

Spam filters can be trained. Just mark anything you don't want and didn't explicitly sign up to as spam, "legitimate" sender or not. Problem solved.
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