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Re: Rust Moderation Team Resigns

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It's "a fundamental principle of justice" when "justice" is read in the sense of "law". Not necessarily otherwise. Principles of law apply in a court of law, not everywhere.

No. There are many systems of law that are unjust. Just like the behavior you are defending. Any accusation "substantiated" in secret is not substantiated at all.

A) The original "accusation" doesn't need to be "substantiated" in public, because that's not what this public part of the debate is about. It's about structures and processes, not whatever the original triggering incident may have been.

B) So no case has ever been decided in closed court in your world, or if any have, they're all unsubstantiated? You need to get your mind out of its over-literal legalistic rut, because in the reality the rest of us live in that happens quite frequently, and much of the time we even trust that allegations made in such courts are substantiated even though they aren't made public.

C) This is still not a "system of law" we're discussing. Try to understand the difference.

Re: Rust Moderation Team Resigns

#912

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. There are many systems of law that are unjust. Just like the behavior you are defending. Any accusation "substantiated" in secret is not substantiated at all.

A) The original "accusation" doesn't need to be "substantiated" in public, because that's not what this public part of the debate is about. It's about structures and processes, not whatever the original triggering incident may have been. B) So no case has ever been decided in closed court in your world, or if any have, they're all unsubstantiated? You need to get your mind out of its over-literal legalistic rut, beca…

Don't make personal attacks. It only underscores the weakness of your argument. I'm not the one being overly legalistic, you are trying to make this a discussion of the legal system.

My position, by contrast, is straightforward: Principles of justice apply everywhere. Full stop.

The fact that this isn't a court of law is utterly immaterial. Allegations "substantiated" in secret are not substantiated at all.

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