Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

911–920 of 1001 posts

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#911

Post by 72deluxe »

trixie_ wrote: post #821
ab-dm wrote: post #807

My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it. I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it. (Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

I hope no one feels 'not needing to upgrade' is a 'bad thing' It's a testament to Apple's build quality and long term support that you don't need to upgrade. Samsung and Android are big on the half baked gimmicks and lackluster supports. Those phones you have to upgrade after a few years as they become more bloated than a Windows 95 machine bought from CompUSA.

But Windows 95 wasn't too bad once you removed the bloatware! In fact I think it's faster to use in daily usage due to the lack of animations and GUI candy than modern Windows.

Also, I have an Android device and have had them since the TMobile G1. Early models were hampered by RAM scarcity, and each Android release mentioned the smoother UI (it didn't get great until 6.0 or 7.0?). But in general they were OK (apart from a dreadful Samsung tablet I bought) and the only thing that would "bloat" them is running too many apps concurrently (but then they were "freeze dried" until relaunch) or having too many services running, which recent Android has started to kill vehemently like iOS.

I agree with your Apple build quality support though - my MacBook Pro is 8 years old no problems, and I'm happy with the Air 2 I own that is still supported and useful at decent speeds 5+ years after I bought it.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#912

Post by rimliu »

mantap wrote: post #861
killerdhmo wrote: post #792

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This phone was designed, locked in place, and started manufacturing years ago.

Adding a fingerprint scanner doesn't affect every component in the phone. It doesn't affect the display, CPU, dimensions or anything with a long lead time. It affects the power button. Apple had well enough time to add it.

Sometimes it takes _weeks_ to change some button on the _web_. You talk like this was a trivial change that could be made in a day.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#913

Post by jonplackett »

freehunter wrote: post #733
jonplackett wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty dumb to call it magsafe. With a laptop it really did keep your laptop safe from getting pulled off a desk when you got up to get a coffee and walked through the cord like an idiot. What exactly is 'safe' about this? It's just... mag.

>it really did keep your laptop safe In my experience MagSafe never did that, so it’s likely to be the same on the iPhone as on the Macbooks. Most times when I tripped over the cable, it pulled the cable in a straight line. Unfortunately I can lift my Macbook with the MagSafe cable by pulling in a straight line, so it never actually broke apart the way it was intended. Also unfortunately, it breaks apart very easily…

It definitely saved my laptop a couple of times. But I hear you on the annoying sitting-on-your-lap-cable-coming-out thing. Very annoying.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#914

Post by nbzso »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #710
nbzso wrote: post #696

I live in the future. Here we hate mobile phones. They are boring slabs with annoying demand of mental attention. The cool kids are using simple open hardware to tap into p2p networks. The old people are recycling 4g tech with 3d printed mods for fun and to save money. Economy is sinking daily and the only option to buy new hardware is to finance it for life, so we avoid to do this. Seriously now, my last phone is SE…

> politically correct Please elaborate.

Using public political positions for boosting sales and marketing. People today are buying perceptions and lifestyle not technical products. When corporations are filling political realm with positive public perceptions and lobbing for profit margins and tax evasions the future is bleak.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#915

Post by madeofpalk »

Nextgrid wrote: post #760
whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

I disagree, I prefer Face ID. They just both have pros and cons.

If you're wearing gloves, Touch ID doesnt work. If you're wearing a mask, Face ID doesnt work. If your finger is a bit wet and/or wrinkly, Touch ID doesnt work. If your face is at a very off angle Face ID won't work.

Face ID worked pretty well for me (before mask time) and for me it had less tradeoffs. I prefer it.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#916

Post by rahoulb »

mantap wrote: post #851
nojvek wrote: post #842

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they released the iphone SE last year I immediately bought it. It was the fastest processor, best quality camera in an Apple phone with Touch ID. I refuse to upgrade to an iPhone without Touch ID. Until my phone absolutely dies and there is no choice, then I may consider.

I honestly feel a bit insulted that Apple is releasing a phone without Touch ID during COVID-19. They think I will gladly hand over large amounts of money for a phone that is highly inconvenient to unlock. When it became clear that people around the world were being legally required to cover their face, in some places at any time they left the house, Apple should have raced to equip the next iPhone with a fingerprint…

I imagine that the hardware design was finalised a long time ago and even 9 months would be too short a time to figure out how to include it without reverting to the old design with smaller screens

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#917

Post by rowanG077 »

jachee wrote: post #833
Phrodo_00 wrote: post #797

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really hoping someone like Samsung or Sony picks up on the small iPhone with the same specs as the normal one and come up with something similar in their next gen when my Pixel 3 will be due for an upgrade. (I don't use apple phones because I'm against not being able to run whatever you want on your pocket computer)

I only use Apple phones because I'm against anyone else being able to run whatever they want on my pocket computer. Apple has built a huge trust with my information, and that's impossible to find anywhere else.

You don't need Apple for that. Actually it's incredibly easy. Just don't install the software you don't want to run.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#918

Post by jamesrcole »

72deluxe wrote: post #907
xnx wrote: post #604

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being able to dock a device for charging with one hand (very difficult with a cable) is very nice. Wireless is superior to surface contacts because you can mount orient your phone in different directions without needing to account for the cable.

But docking an old iPod onto a dock was possible with one hand due to the wide connector. It isn't like it's an important problem to solve. Using 2 hands to put a cable into a device - is this really too difficult?? Using two hands for things doesn't seem like a difficulty really - playing a guitar, driving a car etc.

I like products that have less friction, and are easier to deal with. I often find it fiddly to insert the lightning cable into my phone, especially in low light.

It’s not a matter of whether one way is too difficult or not. It’s a matter of whether an alternative has some improvements or not.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#919

Post by chadcmulligan »

ciarannolan wrote: post #62

Do people still watch these live? I find them really hard to watch. It's about 95% fluff and bullshit and 5% about the technology. I usually just read the bullet summary afterwards.

I usually watch the twit.tv ones - they livestream the apple show and talk over it, with vaguely interesting and amusing commentary. The link https://twit.tv/shows/twit-news/episodes/364?autostart=false

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#920

Post by acd »

ab-dm wrote: post #807

My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it. I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it. (Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

Will not give up iPhone 6s it is the last iPhone version with a headphone jack. With iPhone 6s and earlier one can use Hifi headphones without carrying extra headphone jack dongle.
Post reply on HN