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Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends

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Post by dang »

pelasaco wrote: post #206
therusskiy wrote: post #6

I managed to escape the country yesterday, had to flight to Egypt of all places, because ALL (even business) tickets were sold out. The recent news is that starting March 6 all international flights are suspended, the trap has closed. The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countries treat you as enemy. I am at Georgia now and banks refuse to open bank accounts to Russians, and I need…

go back home and fight for freedom. You are the only one that can stop Putin.

That crosses into personal attack and is not allowed here. No more of this, please, regardless of how right your views are or you feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by lowkey »

therusskiy wrote: post #886
lowkey wrote: post #884

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are the Russian oligarchs robbing Russian citizens of the wealth they otherwise could have? I didn’t read that from OP’s post and I don’t understand what exactly you are claiming here. Do Russian oligarchs steal from the bank accounts of ordinary Russians or is there another mechanism of theft?

taxes that Russians pay are largely stolen by the government and given to oligarchs, who are friends of Putin. For example Rotenbergs want to build a new road, they say it's going to cost them 10x times the market cost, but they are going to win this government contract anyway because they had the same judo coach as Putin. Any time West puts sanctions on oligarchs Putin makes a law so they can pay less taxes, meaning…

How is it any different from taxes paid by Americans either directly or indirectly through money-printing driven inflation, being used to bail out bankers in the great financial crisis?

If I recall correctly the government took trillions from ordinary citizens to pay out the banking elite as a thank you for the bankers and rating agencies committing rampant fraud in MBS and CDOs - all while none of them were ever charged with crimes and none went to jail. Many bankers even received massive bonuses from taxpayer-funded bailout funds as well.

Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends

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Post by nuccy »

gspetr wrote: post #757
nuccy wrote: post #146

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[disclaimer: Ukrainian here] > Older generation (who are pro-Russian) suggested being careful around young people as they may be hostile to Russians, even those who are running away from Putin Of course, instead of even attempting to change your country, where there is no war on its territory, you flee. Why should they be kind to you? > The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countrie…

"Silence equals support." This 'translation' is either ignorance or deliberate malice to mislead people. "Silence is a sign of consent" would be an accurate translation, and even then a saying is just a saying, it does not mean it always applies or that it is always true.

Yes, you are right. Noprovrast setting prevented me from fixing that while editing was still possible.

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Post by samstave »

danlugo92 wrote: post #819
samstave wrote: post #285

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Do ypu recall when RUssian oligarch assets were seized in Cyprus as it was their 'carribean' money laundering banking system. Cyprus is literally the hoard of Russian oligarchs, yet I am sure they have been divesting from Cyprus to other locales.. of which were exposed in Panama Papers.. "the bank of switzerland is seizing accounts" (lit just reported n NPR) --- the author of the book on klepto is talking about laund…

Not Delaware, Wyoming.

And what Military Industrial Complex Demons do we know about harking from Wyoming... hm..

Gee There are a lot of shell company shenanigans coming from there...

Cheney's reign never ended. He is a blight on American history.

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Post by vmception »

xur17 wrote: post #787
vmception wrote: post #749

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Got it, DAI uses a basket of collateral, some of which is the USDC stablecoin, and USDC itself is backed by USD. I dont think that means what you think it means, even if all the USDC in DAI deposits was frozen I think there are other contingencies to keep it at $1 MIM uses the same model except the collateral choices are better, so far, as they are all interest bearing or revenue producing assets such as xSushi and l…

If I was looking for a stablecoin at the intersection of secure, seizure resistant, and well backed, I'd probably go with Liquity (LUSD). It's backed by ETH, doesn't have a dao or anything controlling it, and has been operating for over a year at this point with no issues.

Keeping it simple, love to see it

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Post by CyberRabbi »

cguess wrote: post #88
CyberRabbi wrote: post #59

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Those are all primarily western platforms. Even if they did show what you are claiming, it wouldn’t prove your point. RT is blocked on Telegram and YouTube for instance.

Telegram was created by a Russian.

Yet RT is still banned on Telegram.

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Post by CyberRabbi »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #79
CyberRabbi wrote: post #59

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Those are all primarily western platforms. Even if they did show what you are claiming, it wouldn’t prove your point. RT is blocked on Telegram and YouTube for instance.

Telegram is owned by Russians and operated out of Dubai... Western countries have literally warned about it for that reason... Twitter has large shareholders in the Middle East. Also I forgot TikTok. Plenty of vids there. Owned by the Chinese. You can check that out. But hey, keep swallowing that Russian propaganda...

> But hey, keep swallowing that Russian propaganda...

To what exactly are you referring? Everything I wrote in my comment is true. RT is factually banned on Telegram.

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Post by tablespoon »

dang wrote: post #901
pelasaco wrote: post #206

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go back home and fight for freedom. You are the only one that can stop Putin.

That crosses into personal attack and is not allowed here. No more of this, please, regardless of how right your views are or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> That crosses into personal attack and is not allowed here.

Speaking of personal attacks, could you take a look at these comments?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30558831

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30559742

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Post by depr »

formvoltron wrote: post #51
jacquesm wrote: post #43

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Fair chance it would turn into a bloodbath. Better would a national strike. Equally difficult to organize but much harder to attack.

I'm talking about ALL the people that are against Putin. Which if this guy is to be believed is most of the people. They are not going to kill most of their own people. A million people marching in Moscow would change minds.

>They are not going to kill most of their own people

What makes you think that? Do you think the Uyghurs of which there are millions in China should just walk out shaking their fucking keys?

If Putin loses the war he will lose power. He will no longer win the next election as he'll be seen as weak. So he can't change his mind and if people start a protest in Moscow it is in his interest to do everything he can to quell it.

Furthermore you say you have no sympathy for Russians if they can't manage to get a million people to walk out. So if there are only 10,000 people who are against Putin, they just have to suffer the consequences for the choices that the rest of them made?

Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends

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Post by moonchrome »

yc12340 wrote: post #833
moonchrome wrote: post #582

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As a skilled developer ? Shouldn't be that hard - plenty of options to pick from. If you aren't fond of the US or EU there are other countries that have much better standard of living/ personal freedoms compared to Russia. It's not easy in the sense that you'll just get a citizenship - but I have many former co-workers that went to Canada, US, Australia, etc., some got the permanent visa/citizenship, some are in the…

> As a skilled developer ? Shouldn't be that hard - plenty of options to pick from. Maybe it used to be that way in the past, but not these days. When I tried to go to Ireland a year ago, entering the country was impossible due to a multi-year long COVID travel ban. Schengen visas were useless — you needed a job offer AND a job permit just to enter the country. I passed a bunch of interviews, received preliminary off…

This is true, nobody I know emigrated during COVID, was mostly 5-6 years ago in that late 20s period before you settle down.

With regards to Serbia at least, while I'm not from there it's a neighbouring country, Belgrade isn't that bad and working for westerners should be the same as working from Russia, minus a few hours of TZ depending on where you are from. English should be decent as well with the younger crowd, especially in IT, some older folk know Russian. And 10000$ would get you settled for months, people there don't make that in a year on average. Don't know much about the visa/bank account issues - maybe you could open a business and setup a bank account through that.

Bosnia and Herzegovina is also super cheap and a wild west regarding laws - people buy anything there - diplomas, citizenship. Also have working banking system. But standard of living is considerably worse.

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