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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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I think he meant using VMWare Tools on Ubuntu As opposed to running Ubuntu under VMWare

Tools runs on the guest OS to provide better mouse/graphics/etc integration. Typically it gets broken with new kernels. I am still hoping for a reliable/official VMWare Tools .deb repository.

Ah. Snap.

I am having one of those days. I read 'VMWare Tools' as 'VMWare Server' for some reason. Cheers!

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

How long has it been since you looked at Ubuntu's fonts? I use both OS X and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is at least equal to OS X these days IMO.

I dunno...

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/jsz0/fonttest.png

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Actually, with Windows 7 and Snow Leopard out Ubuntu feels even further away from becoming mainstream. I want to like Linux on the desktop but looking at it objectively Win 7 and Snow Leopard are better.

I couldn't agree more. The last time I ran Ubuntu as my primary OS its desktop experience was a long ways from Windows or OSX. Compviz was full of bugs that in my opinion significantly detracted from the the overall desktop experience. I'd constantly run into problems where windows wouldn't be placed correctly on the screen or would have artifacts drawn in them. Some of the compviz effects would fail to run altogethe…

Funny, Ubuntu always seemed much more responsive to me. I very much prefer it over Windows. OSX I haven't tried enough to form an unbiased opinion on.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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post #82

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

I replied to someone else with the same issue, font rendering has always been by far the best with ubuntu for me than anything else http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg all default installs, ill reply in 10 minutes or something confirming which is which

I personally greatly prefer Windows style font rendering (presumably #2). Fortunately Ubuntu is flexible enough that I can configure it for Windows style font smoothing.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Disk space is required to install the OS. The alternative is letting the user download the .iso, burn it, then try to install only to have the installer complain about not having enough space. That is failing at UI. The additional cognitive load of reading a disk space requirement is negligible, especially compared to what someone who needed that information has to go through without it. You haven't even considered t…

> Not only are you wrong I might well be wrong about whether it's worth it to show disk space or not. I have no problem admitting this, because I haven't done any studies about it. > but "You fail at UI" is a particularly abrasive way to be wrong. >The additional cognitive load of reading a disk space requirement is negligible Apparently I was too abrasive, or not abrasive enough. NO amount of cognitive load is negli…

Ok, let me revise my statement: the cognitive load of the requirement is only negligible in comparison to the frustration not including the requirement would cause.

Apple puts the disk space requirements in every single installer. Disk usage is an important piece of information. I'd agree with you if it were something like "Ubuntu requires a Pentium II or higher".

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

How long has it been since you looked at Ubuntu's fonts? I use both OS X and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is at least equal to OS X these days IMO.

Run, don't walk, to your nearest optometrist and get your eyes checked.

Ubuntu and OS X are not even remotely comparable from a typography standpoint. Using Freetype (the Linux/X11 lib for font rendering), tracking and stem thickness is inconsistent, ascenders and descenders get cut off, etc.

The Freetype team puts forth a valiant effort, but until they're allowed to use Adobe/Apple/etc.'s patented hinting algorithms, there's no comparison.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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post #82

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

Basically, here's what's going on: 1) There aren't many free typefaces for daily use that are beautiful, so you have to buy (or commission) several and "open source" them. 2) Techniques for AA font rendering that maximize aesthetics and readability are protected by numerous software patents. Years ago there was a short-lived patch in Xorg that had a modern font-AA algorithm that held its own against the competition,…

Is there source code out there for a patent infringing Ubuntu font fix?

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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How long has it been since you looked at Ubuntu's fonts? I use both OS X and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is at least equal to OS X these days IMO.

I dunno... http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/jsz0/fonttest.png

Just tell Ubuntu/Gnome to use the DejaVu fonts by default. They are much nicer looking than the "standard" fonts. Also, `aptitude install ttf-mscorefonts-installer` goes a long way towards making the web look nicer, as does changing Firefox's default font selections.

And yes, I wish Ubuntu would at least make DejaVu the defaults for everything out of the box.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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How long has it been since you looked at Ubuntu's fonts? I use both OS X and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is at least equal to OS X these days IMO.

I dunno... http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu139/jsz0/fonttest.png

I'm using Ubuntu and my screen looks like the OSX screen in the picture. The default ubuntu install comes with only free fonts, and clearly HN has been designed to look best with non free. All that is required to make both look the same is to type:

sudo aptitude install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

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