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Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by heyitsnick »

liuliu wrote: post #76
kingkawn wrote: post #37

i done been on beta, it actually works pretty well and the graphic card compatibility is improved greatly.

Actually the graphics card support is better than Windows for me . My graphics card driver keeps crash under Windows 7 but for 9.10 Ubuntu, there is no problem (Rademon HD 5770)

Correction: Actually the graphics card support is better than Windows for me. One case study is not enough evidence to support your claim that overall their driver support is better.

But I'm v happy to hear this: i've struggled with my ATI graphics card the last 2 major versions of ubuntu (7.x i managed to get working after days of hacking around. Never got compiz working though. 8.x I got compiz running, but the general performance was so sluggish it was unusually).

I'll give it another shot.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by ivenkys »

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

#83

Post by daleharvey »

ivenkys wrote: post #82

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

I replied to someone else with the same issue, font rendering has always been by far the best with ubuntu for me than anything else

http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg

all default installs, ill reply in 10 minutes or something confirming which is which

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by aarongough »

daleharvey wrote: post #83
ivenkys wrote: post #82

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

I replied to someone else with the same issue, font rendering has always been by far the best with ubuntu for me than anything else http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg all default installs, ill reply in 10 minutes or something confirming which is which

1) OS X

2) Windows (XP I think...)

3) Ubuntu

I may have transposed OS X and Ubuntu though...

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by rufugee »

ivenkys wrote: post #82

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

How long has it been since you looked at Ubuntu's fonts? I use both OS X and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is at least equal to OS X these days IMO.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by aarongough »

mcav wrote: post #36
ghotli wrote: post #30

Some googling shows that the VMWare Tools are not yet compatible with 9.10. Does anyone know how quickly VMWare usually gets around to updating tools after an Ubuntu update?

Works fine for me under Fusion 3.

I think he meant using VMWare Tools on Ubuntu

As opposed to running Ubuntu under VMWare

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by rufugee »

paulsmith wrote: post #5

Smoothest dist upgrade yet ... didn't break any laptop functionality (ThinkPad T500) AFAICT. Use a mirror! ;)

But don't trust the upgrade if you use advanced features (as I found out the hard way) like Software Raid, LVM, and cryptfs. IT WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by dandelany »

Tuna-Fish wrote: post #75
natrius wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disk space is required to install the OS. The alternative is letting the user download the .iso, burn it, then try to install only to have the installer complain about not having enough space. That is failing at UI. The additional cognitive load of reading a disk space requirement is negligible, especially compared to what someone who needed that information has to go through without it. You haven't even considered t…

> Not only are you wrong I might well be wrong about whether it's worth it to show disk space or not. I have no problem admitting this, because I haven't done any studies about it. > but "You fail at UI" is a particularly abrasive way to be wrong. >The additional cognitive load of reading a disk space requirement is negligible Apparently I was too abrasive, or not abrasive enough. NO amount of cognitive load is negli…

> Apparently I was too abrasive, or not abrasive enough.

Just the first one.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by tmitchell »

aarongough wrote: post #86
mcav wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Works fine for me under Fusion 3.

I think he meant using VMWare Tools on Ubuntu As opposed to running Ubuntu under VMWare

Tools runs on the guest OS to provide better mouse/graphics/etc integration. Typically it gets broken with new kernels.

I am still hoping for a reliable/official VMWare Tools .deb repository.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Post by spamizbad »

ivenkys wrote: post #82

Its all well and good for Ubuntu to push further ahead but they would do a real big favor to the push of Linux on the Desktop if they could solve 1 major issue , remove the ugliness in the default rendering of the Fonts. Yes, i know it can be done via a bazillion font config options and yes its very powerful and flexible, but lets get it right by default.

Basically, here's what's going on:

1) There aren't many free typefaces for daily use that are beautiful, so you have to buy (or commission) several and "open source" them.

2) Techniques for AA font rendering that maximize aesthetics and readability are protected by numerous software patents. Years ago there was a short-lived patch in Xorg that had a modern font-AA algorithm that held its own against the competition, but it turned out to step on several patents so it was axed out of fear of litigation. That fear is very real, as typography-related tech patents are one of the most aggressively guarded elements of tech-IP.

As a result, the Linux developers have been forced to re-invent the wheel from the ground up when it comes to typography in Linux distributions.

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