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Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#91

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How can I take you up on that bet? This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... > The pieces laid out fit pretty well. What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family ? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who…

The linguistic analysis actually holds up pretty well (both his writing style and his coding style), and the totality of the circumstances wherein Satoshi matches Bitcoin Satoshi makes it very unlikely that this is a "shoddy piece of journalism." Also, you must not have read the part of the article where the journalist runs through and describes why the other Satoshis are not the Bitcoin Satoshi.

If this person is the Real Satoshi, why are all forum posts except the ones bitcointalk.org about model trains and Royal Danish Cookies?

Not a single post in any programming forum, not a single stackoverflow question, zero online participation in anything related to cryptography or programming.

If we are to believe that the developer of Bitcoin didn't mind using his real name online, what's the explanation for this?

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#92
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From where I'm sitting the burden of proof is on those who claim he ever painstakingly tried to hide his identity. To me it looks like someone who doesn't like a lot of personal attention (something I can certainly relate to) creating something to scratch an intellectual itch and that thing grew far larger than he imagined, so he bowed out. I see no proof that he is someone who was planning complete anonymity from th…

The newsweek article itself claims that Satoshi tried to hide his identity. He never posted any personal information and used an anonymous japanese registration service for the bitcoin.org domain, payment in cash. An unlikely effort for somebody who doesn't care about anonymity.

The article quotes Gavin Andresen as saying "He went to great lengths to protect his anonymity.", but other than that doesn't offer anything to show that he actually was actively trying to hide his identity or was ever using a pseudonym.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#93
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IT's not trespassing to go up to someone's front door, otherwise the mail wouldn't get delivered. You can step on to the curtilage of someone's property, but you must leave if you are asked to do so - although nothing prevents you hanging around on the street in front of the property in hopes of getting an interview. If this becomes onerous, one can get a restraining order, but courts are cautious about handing them…

So, serious argument: What if you purposely did not have a mailbox on your home but at the edge of your property (like much of rural America vs suburban) and you had no obvious front-door. Would a person then be entitled to wander around your property looking for you? I would hope not. So by having a front-door you are suggesting people are allowed to just walk onto your property, up to the door, anytime they feel li…

I'm curious how your logic works. For someone so deeply worried about people intruding onto your property, you seem not to have ever heard of no soliciting/trespassing signs, and somehow leaped to the conclusion that the only proper response to the horror of strangers knocking on your door is to live in some doorless, windowless dystopian nightmare.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#94

While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…

How can I take you up on that bet? This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... > The pieces laid out fit pretty well. What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family ? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who…

Oh god,

The worst thing is that this could be a ploy to force the real bitcoin founder to show himself/herself - implicitly their threatening to keep screwing-up random people's lives.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#95
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This mentions 'anger' as in "After a full day of wild speculation and anger, the LA press have finally tracked down Nakamoto and he’s receiving a grilling." I don't get it, who is angry? This guy could be angry about having his life invaded but where is the emotion coming from here?

> I don't get it, who is angry?

I am, for the poor guy that may or may not be the author of Bitcoin but who, and whose family, is now being watched and constantly approached with questions.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#96
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I'm Satoshi Nakamoto, and so is my wife. But seriously, if this really is the Satoshi Nakamoto and he has been seriously ill with two seperate life threatening illnesses in the recent past, how come none of those bitcoin he supposedly owns have shifted on medical bills?

The claim that he'd have to publicly go onto MtGox to get funds out of his Bitcoin supply is absurd as well. If you're going to move a few million dollars, you can afford to do it right as a private sale using agents who won't blab to the press or anyone else (as long as you pay your taxes) Everyone would know that an early adopter moved some coins, but the IP address of the Starbucks that his lawyer's tech guy makes…

his coins arent on mtGox.

but yes you can see the blockchain - it's public.

he also is a loner with no friends.

the real guy also detailed how the best way to store them.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#97

While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…

How can I take you up on that bet? This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... > The pieces laid out fit pretty well. What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family ? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who…

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Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#98

I didn't know that the origin of the bitcoin was in so much doubt. But after seeing this story, the reddit stuff, and other comments around the web, this just seems like a lot of complicated drama. I don't see how serious people will take Bitcoin seriously let alone have it bring about a libertarian revolution.

Well it's not the origin of Bitcoin itself, it's about which human individual or group wrote the initial paper and the initial version of the software. It's a side-issue that is mostly pursued out of curiosity.

Note that this doesn't mean that I agree that curiosity justifies the current witch hunt, but that's another matter.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#99
post #79

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How can I take you up on that bet? This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... > The pieces laid out fit pretty well. What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family ? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who…

"What a shoddy piece of journalism." You base this conclusion on one line of speculation in the article? Did you miss the part where the journalist flew out, went to the person's house and spoke to them to confirm it was really him before running the story? Sounds like excellent journalism to me.

That part about "distinctive name" actually sound like shoddy piece of journalism. It's like calling "John Smith" distinctive. But while "John Smith" means nothing for native speaker, Satoshi (if written like 聡) can be interesting pen-name, meaning "wise" (google translate won't help you this time, so check http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E8%81%A1 ).

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

#100
I wonder why he doesn't outright deny it all, current and past involvement. He doesn't want to be involved, as far as we know, so why would he care if it's a lie that he has never been involved? Would he not lie out of integrity (assuming it is him)?

Or does he have some plan to out himself at some point, and is it just that he hadn't wanted it to happen like this? Hmm. Well this last part is only wild speculation, in my opinion this hunt and questioning of him and his family should stop right now, but I still wonder.

Curiosity killed the cat...

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