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Re: ”No one at Google is Returning Our Calls”

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Post by d2dadvisory » Mon, Dec 30, 2013, 7:42 AM UTC

angryasian wrote: post #44

I feel like this author just doesn't know what he's talking about and is just ranting on google because AOSP != google experience. He makes no mention of Open Handset Alliance http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/ . This would be the first place to start.

I'm the author. And I do know what I'm talking about. OHA doesn't even begin to solve the problem at hand. The subjects of my piece have access to AOSP, and could join OHA if they wanted to, but the fact is that those are not enough to support their products. These OEMs sell into incredibly competitive environments, and many of their customers want the full Google Experience and G-Suite. They'd be willing to pay something for it. My argument is just that it is in Google's best interests to become more engaged with this community. Nothing to do with how I feel about AOSP.

Re: ”No one at Google is Returning Our Calls”

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Post by pistle » Mon, Dec 30, 2013, 9:05 PM UTC

d2dadvisory wrote: post #90

pistle wrote: post #38

Let's prioritize... Help out a large OEM with some level of gravitas and reliability or 10's to 100's of bargain-bin-targeting mom & pop shops that are unwilling to put their balls on the line to get up to speed on making globally-commercial products. Then you have the morass of cheap China tainting your platform. Google loves Samsung because they understand, slightly, how to balance silly, shiny shit with passable h…

So I wrote the original post, and I'm always a bit afraid to wade into the comments, but I wanted to respond to this one. Your point is that Google is prioritizing correctly. That they are just going after the big OEMs first and then the guys I'm talking about are too small to bother with. About right? I didn't hammer the point in this post, because I've made it a few other places, but all of these OEMs collectively…

Thanks for the wading and additional, nuance-providing details. It would still seem that they would first focus on a single tier of support focusing around their favorite few largest OEMs to set the guide for the others. I'm not saying top 20% of devices, but something along the lines of focusing on the an 80-20 principal. Then, if you see a star being born that will disrupt your top picks, bring them in. Market dominance can be sustained that way. Those OEMs aren't going to be making iOS or Lumias. "It's not nice, it's Google." (TM)

Re: ”No one at Google is Returning Our Calls”

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Post by wpietri » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 10:38 PM UTC

myko wrote: post #72

wpietri wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. Two different top-of-the-line Verizon/Motorola phones, both have an average uptime of a few days. Generally due to a crash, but sometimes because performance is so terrible I have to reboot it. And thanks to the carrier's lockdown (for stability, they'll surely claim), I can't actually debug any of the performance issues. If anybody knows of an Android phone that actually works reliably out of the box, I'd…

My MotoX has never crashed/rebooted on me.

Thanks. Mine is being delivered this afternoon; I got the developer edition so that I can root it without fear.

Re: ”No one at Google is Returning Our Calls”

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 10:38 PM UTC

myko wrote: post #72

wpietri wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. Two different top-of-the-line Verizon/Motorola phones, both have an average uptime of a few days. Generally due to a crash, but sometimes because performance is so terrible I have to reboot it. And thanks to the carrier's lockdown (for stability, they'll surely claim), I can't actually debug any of the performance issues. If anybody knows of an Android phone that actually works reliably out of the box, I'd…

My MotoX has never crashed/rebooted on me.

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Re: ”No one at Google is Returning Our Calls”

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 02, 2014, 10:38 PM UTC

myko wrote: post #72

wpietri wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. Two different top-of-the-line Verizon/Motorola phones, both have an average uptime of a few days. Generally due to a crash, but sometimes because performance is so terrible I have to reboot it. And thanks to the carrier's lockdown (for stability, they'll surely claim), I can't actually debug any of the performance issues. If anybody knows of an Android phone that actually works reliably out of the box, I'd…

My MotoX has never crashed/rebooted on me.

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