Earlier quoted context omitted.
HK != China
Hong Kong is China and has been since 1997.
One country, two systems.
Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it makes sense. Like he said in his interview, he could have just sold the stuff he already leaked. Why then would he bother with the whole trouble of very publicly becoming America's Most Wanted? He sounded pretty sincere about doing this for the good of the American people. He claims he made a concerted effort to not reveal any information that could harm individuals, which appears to hold up. I would…
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing to go on. Edward's disclosure was responsible, and certainly served a public good, and so far he should be lauded for it. It was a brave act. I understand him fleeing and seeking asylum in another country given that there is little chance he would get a 'fair' trial here (as has been shown by the way Bradley Manning and Aaron Swartz have been treated)... but of all places ... China?…
It makes all the sense in the world. Who else would benefit from keeping America's crimes in the public light, by granting asylum to one of its citizens with the courage to reveal those crimes to the world?
Re: Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing to go on. Edward's disclosure was responsible, and certainly served a public good, and so far he should be lauded for it. It was a brave act. I understand him fleeing and seeking asylum in another country given that there is little chance he would get a 'fair' trial here (as has been shown by the way Bradley Manning and Aaron Swartz have been treated)... but of all places ... China?…
HK != China. How many times should we do this?
China can veto any extradition.
HK and US have a mutual extradition treaty for actions that are illegal in both countries. Presumably leaking state secrets is illegal in HK. Furthermore, HK is quite willing to extradite to US and does so on regular basis.
So the question of why China (or HK if you prefer), remains.
Re: Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
#94Have we seen a news report yet about how Snowden traveled to Hong Kong? His choice of destination may have been dictated by where he could fly on a nonstop airline flight from Hawaii, where he was last based. His travel documents, because he was contracting for the NSA, may already have had restrictions on which destinations he could fly to. (Such restrictions have been routine for NSA employees for more than a gener…
A few years ago I was cutting it close for a flight from New York to Maine. Everyone else had boarded when I got to the gate. When my wrinkled, self-printed boarding pass threw error noises, the agent told me just to go, "and run!" I breathed a sigh of relief when I was on the plane, but puzzled that a French tourist was in my seat. When we saw that both our tickets had the same seat we called over a flight attendant. "Wait, where are you flying?" she asked. "Portland, Maine?" With this comment I now fully understand the terror came to her face as she exclaimed, "This plane is going to Paris! Sir, you have to get off this plane immediately! Run, sir, run!" They shut the door behind me as I left.
So yes, always double check your gate assignments at the airport, as they may have changed.
Re: Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
#95A more interesting question is why he made himself public at all.
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#96I've been doubting that he actually IN Hong Kong at the moment. He may have been there at some point and did the interview there, but I would have hoped he burned his location and is currently in another country.
Re: Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
#97Have we seen a news report yet about how Snowden traveled to Hong Kong? His choice of destination may have been dictated by where he could fly on a nonstop airline flight from Hawaii, where he was last based. His travel documents, because he was contracting for the NSA, may already have had restrictions on which destinations he could fly to. (Such restrictions have been routine for NSA employees for more than a gener…
A few years ago I was cutting it close for a flight from New York to Maine. Everyone else had boarded when I got to the gate. When my wrinkled, self-printed boarding pass threw error noises, the agent told me just to go, "and run!" I breathed a sigh of relief when I was on the plane, but puzzled that a French tourist was in my seat. When we saw that both our tickets had the same seat we called over a flight attendant…
you missed a free trip to paris! what an adventure that would have been. well, not if you can't leave the airport.
Re: Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
#98Have we seen a news report yet about how Snowden traveled to Hong Kong? His choice of destination may have been dictated by where he could fly on a nonstop airline flight from Hawaii, where he was last based. His travel documents, because he was contracting for the NSA, may already have had restrictions on which destinations he could fly to. (Such restrictions have been routine for NSA employees for more than a gener…
A few years ago I was cutting it close for a flight from New York to Maine. Everyone else had boarded when I got to the gate. When my wrinkled, self-printed boarding pass threw error noises, the agent told me just to go, "and run!" I breathed a sigh of relief when I was on the plane, but puzzled that a French tourist was in my seat. When we saw that both our tickets had the same seat we called over a flight attendant…
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Re: Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
#99I am baffled too, given that Ecuador offered Assange asylum wouldn't that be the most logical choice? I quick "vacation" down to Costa Rica and overland to Ecuador if you want to avoid raising suspicions and travel restrictions.
> down to Costa Rica and overland to Ecuador https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_Gap
Most people cross the Gap by boat. It's 'overland' in the sense that you don't have to get on a plane.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
200,000 does not seem excessive given the difficulty of finding someone who is both technically competent and trustworthy.. Oh wait...
I think what they are looking for are people that are technically competent, and entirely lacking in a consciousness.
Practically impossible to vet. You won't know whether the person you hired will remain compliant until he steals a bunch of documents and flees the country.