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Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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I didn't test this one, but the new mobile version of Opera is horrible. I like Opera very much and I just can't believe they released this mobile version (also take a look at the latest reviews: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.brow... ). It feels like Opera is having a very hard time to keep its head above the water.

They had to release a Classic version as a result: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.brow....

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

#92
I see a lot of complaining around here.

Apparently people are forgetting that this a preview release.

The features familiar to Opera users that are missing will be added in the next iterations.

It's a clear and simple thing to understand. Quit whining already.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

#93
post #79

Does this use the same process-per-tab sandboxing that Chrome uses? I'm one of those crazy users with far too many tabs, and I was always sceptical that Chrome would be able to handle them all. Opera always ran happily with 100+ tabs. Perhaps this is the reason for the introduction of the 'stash', which in fairness might be a better solution (as I'm not necessarily defending 100+ tabs, but its a habit that has worked…

I was a 100 tab kind of guy but this has helped me kick the habit: http://www.one-tab.com/

That site seems to be created specifically for bloated browsers like Chrome. 1981 MB memory used for around 20 tabs? That's crazy. And why would you pack so many tabs on just one single line?

In Opera you can (at least for now) wrap your tab bar on multiple lines, show an extender menu, disable it (and scroll with right mb + wheel) or simply move the tab bar on the left/right side of the screen, while having a decent resource consumption, all out of the box.

Edit: now I realized it is indeed created specifically for Chrome, it's an extension that tries to help circumvent poor browser design.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Operating system? You should file a bug against Firefox (and Opera, I suppose.)

This has been this way for the last few versions or rather since they changed the UI in version 11 I think. This allows you do double click this array to return to window mode or "drag it down" from maximized which will return it to window mode (Windows).

What OS? I have Firefox for Windows and have no unclickable space between the top of the tabs and top of the screen. I've never experienced that before on any release I can remember.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

"Opera is bloated!" is a common complaint and users assume that having e-mail/rss/irc client makes browser fat and slow (even though Opera with those features used less RAM and disk space than some other "lean" browsers).

Did Opera ever target these users?

I always thought the selling point was the e-mail /rss / irc etc. The things Opera came bundled with. I am sure these will still be available via extensions but then again I don't see the point of Opera now. It is now the same as Chrome.

Each browser has its own selling point. I feel that Opera has lost its by stripping out email and providing no news on other features. I always interpreted these features as the differentiators, the soul of the Opera browser. Opera users were people who embraced these things. Opera used to ship with a built in bittorrent support.. how sweet was that!?

I moved away from Opera when I used IRC and bittorrent far less. I also realized I could test less if I built a site testing as I go in a popular browser rather than a fringe one.

I probably could have done everything I did in Opera using extentions in another browser but Opera just did it out of the box. Its features had consistency and were easy to access. The reason I would choose Opera is because of what it used to be packaged with.

In it's current form it is an alternative version of Chrome.. I guess I could develop in it and have Chrome covered but realistically it would be simpler to just use Chrome. I just don't get it.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

#97
post #15

I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

I'm biased since I've worked on it, but I personally find the native UI a pretty major thing.

It looks and works great so far. Good job.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guys, please remember that the browser has been rebuilt from scratch. It's going to take a while to get all of the features we want back in.

What makes you think they intend to get all the features we want back in? I hope you're right, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that's the case.

AFAIK he works on it.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

#99
I didn't know Opera mail was so good. Now I want it to be bundled with Opera. It's pretty awesome. Except I wish they had a "All Mail" folder... rather then this rather confusing

"Unread" and "Received" folders, that seem to contain pretty much the same thing until you read them, then it is removed from both.

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