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Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by Myrth »

learningram wrote: post #71
cookiecaper wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla recently placed Thunderbird in a maintenance-only state, where active feature development has ceased but stability, security, and speed improvements will continue to be merged. This is why Thunderbird is on v17 instead of Firefox's v21 after graduating versions in lockstep with Fx for a while. It doesn't mean they won't accept features, they've just stated that they're not going to be focusing any of their de…

So what would be a good client on Windows ?

I was just recently trying eM Client, was happy at the beginning as it has nice interface and integrates with GMail contacts and calendar. Was considering even buying the license. But then I started having contact local/remote sync conflicts without having them changed on either side. And then while the modal was blocking UI, it apparently was blocking the scheduler, so it was queuing all mailbox sync operations and performs ALL of them multiple times after modal is closed...

So I guess back to Opera Mail. Other ones like TB, Sylpheed don't cut it for me.. I guess they have UI and network actions within the same thread, and that makes them get stuck.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by brainburn »

ZeWaren wrote: post #75

Also, I can't find how to put my tabs on the left side of the window. I don't think I can live without this anymore. What's the point of having wide screens if you stack everything vertically? I also hope they won't remove the bookmark panel. Having your entire bookmark tree open anytime is a very pleasant feature in my opinion.

Tabs on the left is so awesome. First thing I checked, sad to not see it included :(

Firefox has a plugin for it but it's all just too sluggish.

I'll just use the old opera for now.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by blaabjerg »

andreastt wrote: post #50
anonymfus wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Below there is a list not so important missing features. No thumbnails/previews in tab bar. No any customisation of toolbars. No fast forward. One-key keyboard shortcuts work, but funny: in text boxes they work simultaneous with text input. Ctrl+Z don't open old tabs. No image properties, so no EXIF viewer.

Guys, please remember that the browser has been rebuilt from scratch. It's going to take a while to get all of the features we want back in.

What makes you think they intend to get all the features we want back in? I hope you're right, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that's the case.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by atesti »

brainburn wrote: post #82
ZeWaren wrote: post #75

Also, I can't find how to put my tabs on the left side of the window. I don't think I can live without this anymore. What's the point of having wide screens if you stack everything vertically? I also hope they won't remove the bookmark panel. Having your entire bookmark tree open anytime is a very pleasant feature in my opinion.

Tabs on the left is so awesome. First thing I checked, sad to not see it included :( Firefox has a plugin for it but it's all just too sluggish. I'll just use the old opera for now.

Even with chrome you can have it (or has it been removed recently?)! It was in chrome://flags!

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by anonymfus »

porker wrote: post #20

If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)

Mail client looks based on old Opera engine. It needs investigation.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by pornel »

bobsy wrote: post #15

I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

"Opera is bloated!" is a common complaint and users assume that having e-mail/rss/irc client makes browser fat and slow (even though Opera with those features used less RAM and disk space than some other "lean" browsers).

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by Ziomislaw »

dreadynot wrote: post #34
andreastt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm biased since I've worked on it, but I personally find the native UI a pretty major thing.

I wish I could have tried it but as usual no love for linux users from opera, or much delayed love. But still I have a hard time thinking that removing many features, not improving features that have been broken for years while almost doubling the size of the download is any kind of improvement. I wish opera would release their engine as opensource so people can take it up from there. I don't want no google/apple bro…

you are mistaken, there is a lot of love to unix'ish systems. for example opera is the only "popular" browser with packages for freebsd.

This is a new product so I would be _very_ suprised if they didn't limit the amount of platforms they released it initially to.

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