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Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by badgar »

anti-pattern wrote: post #68
badgar wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might I ask why you built your own, knowing there was an almost identical offering in place for years? For example, did your different choice of releases cause a statistically significant shift in arrival times? I imagine you've done analysis comparing your approach to theirs.

I built my own because their design, and I mean literally the way they visualize the data, isn't very good. Or rather, it's not as good as it could be. They even updated the design a year or two ago and all they did was give it a coat of paint, rather than rethinking how to best visualize the data.

That's a great reason! I agree their design sucks and yours is orders of magnitude more usable.

It's just too bad that you have to re-collect the same data. N historically up-to-date data sources for N designs is just unscalable.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by anti-pattern »

afxjzs wrote: post #90

Wow...the Mac rumors buying guide but prettier with less info. Is there any real insight or innovation here above and beyond that?

I guess it depends on how you quantify usefulness. There's less info, but I think I visualized the information that I do show much better than MacRumors.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by WildUtah »

tolmasky wrote: post #86
nwh wrote: post #20

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If you want truly awful bang-for-buck, try the Mac Pro, it's hilariously overpriced for such an old machine. The CPU had to be swapped out because Intel stopped making the original ones.

On gazelle my Mac Pro (which is basically identical to the top of the line one you can buy now), gets you about ~$550. In other words, no one should be buying this thing new.

If you have foolishly built a Mac app that does any kind of number crunching, your choices are the newest Mac Pro at whatever absurd price Apple asks or breaking the law with a hackintosh.

Apple has been making moves that look like abandoning the Mac Pro for a while now. It's been three years where the only upgrade has been a chip update forced on them because Intel stopped making the old ones.

If you're thinking of making a video processing app or scientific computing app or any other app that really likes a lot of CPU you should plan your Mac version with a generic unix back end and communicate over the network. Apple is not supporting the market, anymore.

I guess that applies to anyone who wants something other than a phone or tablet. Unfortunately all the other manufacturers have abandoned the mid-range desktop and laptop PC markets even more thoroughly than Apple. I'm still amazed no one else but Apple sold a laptop with an acceptable screen at all for four straight years until 2012.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by sachingulaya »

PeterisP wrote: post #76
sachingulaya wrote: post #18

You should separate MBP and rMBP.

It's not so clear if MBP will even be a product line in the future - I'd bet that in the future Apple will want to have just two laptop lines, Air and Pro, both with Retina displays.

Right, but they have two lines right now and changing the site to reflect product consolidation in the future is trivial.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by gstar »

anti-pattern wrote: post #52
gstar wrote: post #42

Reminds me of something I built years ago: http://web.archive.org/web/20080616021707/http://www.mactact...

Oh I remember seeing that when it came out. Did you take it down?

Yeah, someone from Apple emailed me and asked me to - so I did.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by tolmasky »

WildUtah wrote: post #93
tolmasky wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On gazelle my Mac Pro (which is basically identical to the top of the line one you can buy now), gets you about ~$550. In other words, no one should be buying this thing new.

If you have foolishly built a Mac app that does any kind of number crunching, your choices are the newest Mac Pro at whatever absurd price Apple asks or breaking the law with a hackintosh. Apple has been making moves that look like abandoning the Mac Pro for a while now. It's been three years where the only upgrade has been a chip update forced on them because Intel stopped making the old ones. If you're thinking of…

You might actually be better off getting a Mac Mini or Macbook Pro Retina for those apps, unless they are GPU or RAM bound. If I recall correctly, both these machines outperform the Mac Pro in terms of CPU now.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by hollerith »

tolmasky wrote: post #97
WildUtah wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have foolishly built a Mac app that does any kind of number crunching, your choices are the newest Mac Pro at whatever absurd price Apple asks or breaking the law with a hackintosh. Apple has been making moves that look like abandoning the Mac Pro for a while now. It's been three years where the only upgrade has been a chip update forced on them because Intel stopped making the old ones. If you're thinking of…

You might actually be better off getting a Mac Mini or Macbook Pro Retina for those apps, unless they are GPU or RAM bound. If I recall correctly, both these machines outperform the Mac Pro in terms of CPU now.

Does anyone have an explanation for this puzzling neglect of the market for "high-end" Mac desktops?

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by imsky »

hollerith wrote: post #98
tolmasky wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might actually be better off getting a Mac Mini or Macbook Pro Retina for those apps, unless they are GPU or RAM bound. If I recall correctly, both these machines outperform the Mac Pro in terms of CPU now.

Does anyone have an explanation for this puzzling neglect of the market for "high-end" Mac desktops?

Here's my theory. Apple has made its reputation in the 90s with the film/graphics/illustration market, and that's where the Power Mac/Mac Pro was a critical product. Once the switch to Intel was made and laptops started catching up in speed/GPU power, less people needed a fixed tower just for Photoshop/After Effects/Maya, they just put those apps on a laptop. Moreover, the professional market is always smaller than the consumer market, and consumers don't want desktops, so Apple just went where the money is.

They got rid of Xserve and they'll likely get rid of the Mac Pro if demand falls significantly.

Re: Expected arrival times for Apple products

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Post by imsky »

aorshan wrote: post #70
simonsarris wrote: post #15

This is a great idea, and is especially pertinent to Mac fans who care about the hardware they are using. Since Apple does not discount old hardware (even with 2-3 year old video cards, they charge the same amount as a brand new updated mac the very next week[1]), people buying a Macbook pro at the wrong end of the timeline can get totally shafted on equipment, especially from a price-per-performance view. That feels…

You could also buy a refurbished mac. They tend to be about $300 cheaper than the retail version and tend not to have any problems. I just bought one and so far its been perfect. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

The outdated hardware often makes the savings not worth it.
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