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Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#91

Post by stefan_ »

deanc wrote: post #51
ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

Serious question, why does it matter to you? Maybe they wrote a draft and reviewed Claude's writing before publishing. Why are we trying to "call out" when AI is assisting us in our work? This is an open source project, not a F500 company. They have limited resources, maybe English isn't their first language.

Just read the post! It's essentially "we switched from Radix to Base UI". Why? "the ecosystem moved on". Nothing says braindead web frontend churn like this post, and them not having written it in the first place is just the cherry on the cake.

They could have just written "we asked Claude to rewrite our project with Base UI because it eclipsed Radix in NPM downloads".

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#92

Post by techscruggs »

ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

The post effectively communicated what it needed to. It seemed both written and structured in a way that was optimized for human consumption.

If they used AI to write this and that gave them more time to volunteer their time towards developing this fantastic piece of open source software, then this all seems like a good thing to me.

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#93

Post by Melonai »

eurekin wrote: post #69
ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

Oh, I know exactly what you mean. I use plannotator with claude a lot and have much better time, since I asked for a specific styleguide. I used "CD era MSDN reference and Raymond Chen blogging style" as a starting prompt for the styleguide and my work ability to digest AI plans raised a lot. Couldn't recommend it more. Humble, insightful and respecting the reader

Exactly! See this is what I don't get about the Claude/GPT-style writing that's so prevalent everywhere and why it annoys me even more. It's just so easy to get rid of it, that's why it feels even more disrespectful when I still see it everywhere in full force, just a few sentences is enough to get rid of so much of the extremely obvious tells, sometimes even a "Don't write like an AI" in the prompt leads to completely acceptable results. Everywhere I use LLMs I put a tiny style-guide with instructions such as yours, and the results are just so much more pleasant I barely understand why it seems that almost everyone else seems incapable of it?

The obvious response is of course, they're just completely unbothered by it. Why change it if it doesn't even matter (to me)? I presume the set of people who use AI like this for writing and the set of people who are annoyed by it are largely not overlapping, and there is a possibility that a lot of the text I read and think sounds human, might be written by an LLM with a style-guide like mine. Still though, if 5 words genuinely can reduce annoyance by a lot of people who read your article, why does it feel like so many people haven't picked up on it yet? Or is the LLM writing highly loved & popular amongst other people perhaps?

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#94

Post by elxr »

dkersten wrote: post #37
Exoristos wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mantine is brilliant, I can build anything in it quickly and then extend it or completely customize the theme or individual components, but there is a learning curve. I would not call it a giant learning curve.

I love Mantine. It’s easy to use, full featured with lots of components and helpers, and yet if you need to, you can use it headless and customise it too (I’ve never bothered though; I did add my own additional spacing/sizing options via the theme support though)

Any direct comparisons to base UI? I've been pretty satisfied with base UI so far, but my usage has been very basic so I'm open to switching if Mantine offers something better.

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#95

Post by NamlchakKhandro »

stefan_ wrote: post #91
deanc wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, why does it matter to you? Maybe they wrote a draft and reviewed Claude's writing before publishing. Why are we trying to "call out" when AI is assisting us in our work? This is an open source project, not a F500 company. They have limited resources, maybe English isn't their first language.

Just read the post! It's essentially "we switched from Radix to Base UI". Why? "the ecosystem moved on". Nothing says braindead web frontend churn like this post, and them not having written it in the first place is just the cherry on the cake. They could have just written "we asked Claude to rewrite our project with Base UI because it eclipsed Radix in NPM downloads".

If you're not a heavy frontend developer then you probably don't know why radix is a blocker for most server side react

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#96

Post by LVB »

deanc wrote: post #51
ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

Serious question, why does it matter to you? Maybe they wrote a draft and reviewed Claude's writing before publishing. Why are we trying to "call out" when AI is assisting us in our work? This is an open source project, not a F500 company. They have limited resources, maybe English isn't their first language.

Tone/style bit aside, a real problem is length. Scroll waaay down and look at most older updates and see how brief and too-the-point they were. Often they look rushed, some essential links, and that’s it. Fine by me! That’s the real state of things… people usually don’t want to write bc it’s a lot of effort.

I see the same phenomenon at work. A year ago I’d read your two-sentence daily update in slack, all riddled with the quirks and oddities that made it yours. Today when I see the page of headings and emojis describing the couple things you did yesterday, I wince because now I’m the one who has to sift through the fluff to get to the point.

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#97

Post by afiori »

tipiirai wrote: post #40
dyllon wrote: post #4

Moving away from codemods and towards LLMs doing migration work is an interesting development. Even if they’re more deterministic, I wonder if the days of codemods are numbered.

Sorry, what is codemod here?

A tool to do automatic migrations eg react often publ

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#98

Post by [deleted] »

robmccoll wrote: post #59
deanc wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, why does it matter to you? Maybe they wrote a draft and reviewed Claude's writing before publishing. Why are we trying to "call out" when AI is assisting us in our work? This is an open source project, not a F500 company. They have limited resources, maybe English isn't their first language.

Because I associate that style with "I have little to say, but I will say it in as many words as I possibly can"

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Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#100

Post by petilon »

wongarsu wrote: post #86
petilon wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that a bit like working in the movie industry and no longer being able to enjoy films because you are always thinking about how they were made and noticing their flaws?

More like working in the movie industry and noticing all the places where the director took the cheap shortcut instead of putting effort in. And while the result isn't much worse, it still feels a bit disrespectful. You reminisce about the time five years ago when things were much more human Oh, and the target audience of movie you are watching are other people in the movie industry. Nearly everyone in the audience c…

After watching the movie everyone in the audience goes back to their offices, and what do they use to improve their productivity? Right, AI.
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