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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by ungovernableCat »

colesantiago wrote: post #46
rocketpastsix wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is no way Fable and Mythos had such an impact in such a short amount of time that people were hiring based on it.

They certainly are now that the export ban is lifted.

They haven’t even restored access yet lol, they’re doing that tomorrow.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by cjbgkagh »

brazukadev wrote: post #59
Sammi wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

do you think your current operation and niche is so optimized that not using Fable would put you out of business? Or is this a hope that using Fable will allow you to stay in business?

I am on track to commoditize my niche industry, and I hope I can do it before anyone else beats me to it. I'm working at panic speeds.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

parodysbird wrote: post #63
Sammi wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

This is a great recipe for going out of business.

And thus, capitalism continues to roll on. Businesses are suppose to go out of business, its a feature.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by [deleted] »

nickv wrote: post #83

I bet you that nothing changed with how Fable 5 is run. "Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models" LOL, this was already happening. This clown car administration just keeps making shit up and then backpedalling in a way that just leaves everything worse.

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by standardUser »

Bilal_io wrote: post #89
chatmasta wrote: post #17

Mildly surprising they lifted export restrictions for Mythos too. Isn’t that Fable minus the safety layer?

Presumably they reached a backdoor agreement.

You're suggesting a for-profit company both hobbled it's own product and is actively lying about doing so. The only way that's true is if the Trump admin has crawled all the way up Anthropic's ass. But by all accounts, this is just another 10% effort by Trump and friends.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by SwellJoe »

Sammi wrote: post #45
drevil-v2 wrote: post #29

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

The good news (for you and most everyone other than the current leading AI companies), the gap between the SOTA and the near-frontiers is getting smaller every week or two. The leading Chinese models are only a few months behind now (GLM 5.2 tickles the tail of GPT 5.3 or 5.4 and Opus 4.6, according to benchmarks and the vibes among heavy users who've spent some time with it), where they were a couple of years behind a year ago.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by Aeolun »

s3p wrote: post #44
Avicebron wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any news why?

They don't speak the same [proverbial] language essentially. Dario and the WH talk about this stuff completely differently. https://archive.is/9k7qt#selection-2001.41-2001.49 https://archive.is/dybOE

I'm fairly certain which side of the conversation I'd have trouble understanding. I have trouble understanding it all the time.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by afavour »

drevil-v2 wrote: post #29

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

Wouldn’t you just have fallbacks? Today’s frontier models are just better than the other models, they don’t really have a ton of entirely unique abilities that can’t be replicated with more time and effort.

So you use the frontier model, then when you can’t you accept things are less efficient. The alternative (right now) is to be less efficient all the time, I don’t see any advantage to that.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by K0balt »

echelon wrote: post #81
jdlshore wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What concrete business advantage are you getting from LLMs?

Speed.

This x 10 . I don’t understand how people are saying you can’t use LLMs to get crazy productivity gains. If you can’t write quality code with LLMs at ludicrous speed, you’re holding it wrong. You will have occasional bad days and regressions. But overall you’re still going to be able to 4x your progress.
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