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Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by pbgcp2026 »

david_shi wrote: post #71
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

The economics of working at a pre-IPO company that will likely have a successful IPO and a 20+ year post-IPO company are also very different.

... yep and kxm Bessent kxm helped to set it. Anthropic shot themselves in a foot. Twice LOL

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by fhe »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

I felt Hassabis' heart was never in consumer applications or even LLMs. He'd much rather be doing scientific research.

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by jatins »

kranke155 wrote: post #7
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

Is it possible they are just falling behind ? Their newest model wasn’t really SOTA. And honestly fable 5 was the most human like model I’d ever tried. It was an incredible jump. And recently lots of Claude users at r/ClaudeAI are noticing Opus 4.8 has really increased in capability. Not new things but maybe redirected compute. It just feels like one of the best models ever, maybe because the compute that was previou…

I think they'll catch up in pure model capabilities but they do such a terrible job of making products from which to use their models that having the best model doesn't end up mattering.

Is Gemini good at writing code? I am sure it is. But where is their Codex? And no, antigravity isn't it.

Is Gemini good at making visualizations? I am sure it is. But where are artifact or visualise skill in gemini.google.com similar to what's available on claude.ai?

What is an average user going to do raw model capability if the product surface isn't expressive enough?

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by HlessClaudesman »

kranke155 wrote: post #7
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

Is it possible they are just falling behind ? Their newest model wasn’t really SOTA. And honestly fable 5 was the most human like model I’d ever tried. It was an incredible jump. And recently lots of Claude users at r/ClaudeAI are noticing Opus 4.8 has really increased in capability. Not new things but maybe redirected compute. It just feels like one of the best models ever, maybe because the compute that was previou…

Google's AI is hamstrung by a culture of safetyisim, by that I mean going beyond what we can all recognise as safe limits to protect the user from imaginary ephemeral things like cultural harms.

So maximal safety at all costs is in itself a cost. They can spend billions on AI but that spend is down the toilet if the user bounces because the AI's persona is a relentless politically correct scold.

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