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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by drnick1 »

rafram wrote: post #21
risyachka wrote: post #12

Shameless plug - I created a chrome extension that allows to create unique email addresses that forward to your real inbox. It uses Cloudflare email routing, simplifies creating/labeling of new addresses and keeping track of them. Always 1 click away. The addresses are pre-allocated and recycled when deleted so creating a new one is faster that with Apple's hide my mail. https://github.com/webmonch/hide-my-mail-cloud…

Doesn't owning the domain kind of defeat the point?

Not really, at least if you register the domain anonymously. You get unlimited emails, and I assign one to each website or registration.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by switz »

jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld

But the people usually just nod along.

The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by quinncom »

jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

Gmail will block messages that fail SPF/DMARC alignment unless the forwarding mail server supports SRS.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by danudey »

hamdingers wrote: post #84
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

[flagged]

> If you insist on giving me a fake email, your business is probably a liability I don't want anyway

It's not a fake e-mail, it's a legitimate e-mail that you can send e-mail to and the user will receive, which has to be created by a paying iCloud user and not an anonymous rando off the internet.

I'd be interested to know what downsides, if any, you see for a website to accept a private e-mail address like this. Do you have a legitimate complaint about these sorts of e-mails? Again, given that private relay isn't an 'anonymous e-mail service' (it's still tied to your iCloud account so spam, etc. shouldn't be any more of an issue) but merely an 'anonymous to the person you're giving the e-mail to' service.

If your actual complaint is 'if you insist on giving me an e-mail that you can revoke unilaterally making me unable to contact you against your wishes, and which cannot be associated with other user data from other sources to build a profile of you, then you're not worth having as a customer' then that's a separate complaint - and one that means I want nothing to do with your website.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by snark42 »

switz wrote: post #92
jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

You can proxy responses with a ton of e-mail clients, even Gmail supports it once you verify you can get a message sent to that address.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by chuckadams »

switz wrote: post #92
jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

They act as if I discovered fire when I give them a plussed address.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by cloudfudge »

hamdingers wrote: post #84
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

[flagged]

There's nothing "fake" about the email. It's just an alias made specifically for each recipient.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by Henchman21 »

switz wrote: post #92
jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

So I guess I'll take a moment and plug my email provider, Fastmail. Their integration with 1Password to enable creation of Masked Email at account creation time is really fantastic! I have several hundred of these at this point, it's made my digital life appreciably better.

But to the point of forward-in-only -- I use the fastmail web client and iOS client. Both of these respond using the Masked Email address if you choose to respond to an email. In fact I can choose any of my masked email addressed as I am composing mail to initial communication from that address.

In short, "it just works". I really can't say enough good things about Fastmail!

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by quotz »

jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I do something similar, use an open source service called addy.io, bought a domain but you can also use their domains too, and each website has a separate login i create through bitwarden with the addy integration.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by shoo_pl »

snark42 wrote: post #95
switz wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

You can proxy responses with a ton of e-mail clients, even Gmail supports it once you verify you can get a message sent to that address.

Not really, this only works for other emails hosted by Gmail (including Workspaces) or if you supply SMPT that will send those emails. If you use simple email forwarding from your DNS provider, you don't have SMPT server to give to gmail:/
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