How much is it?
Likely $90k USD MSRP with a wholesale price around half that.
Dell is getting first dibs.
245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay, so that 122TB drive costs about $330/TB. I haven't bought a hard drive or an SSD in at least a decade (I get stuff for free, basically) but…that seems a bit high, right? Seems like well-rated consumer-level SSDs cost around $250 for 1TB right now. What accounts for the premium price/TB of these extremely high capacity enterprise-targeted drives?
Density, power efficiency, write endurance, sustained write speeds under continuous load, power-loss protection.
And out of band management, hot plug capable form factors, and
a bunch of other things described in the OCP NVMe SSD spec.
https://www.opencompute.org/documents/datacenter-nvme-ssd-sp...
Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
#93Can someone who knows explain what is the benefit of having all that data in one ssd instead of splitting it up into hundreds of individual drives? Does the single ssd benefit is more performance or does it really tuen out to be cheaper than hundreds of individual drives?
Power consumption is the single biggest data center cost. This thing takes only 30W. An average 4 TB SSD pulls 6W, so that's a 12x improvement.
Furthermore, 15-60x density improvement reduces server and infrastructure costs because it requires vastly less of everything per EiB.
Cooling and power are the limiting factors of density.
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#94We bought a 2TB Sandisk SSD back in 2024 for around $95 from best buy. Today 1TB ssd by sandisk is $166(the cheapest that i found, and it goes for $199 in walmart). Market is forcing people to become renters than buyers and there is no force countering that idea. Its a market failure that people will study 10-15 years from now. EDIT- The same 2TB ssd is now $329.99 at bestbuy.
You were not are renter in 2021 when NVMe were same price as now by TB,
stuff is just becoming more expensive on market shortages.
Last half year ate up three to four years of earlier price regression, that's about it.
As long as this plateaus here, as prices did for last 4 months, that's just the new equilibrium where it has the chance to get better again, would no be all doom and gloom about personal computing yet.
Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
#95We bought a 2TB Sandisk SSD back in 2024 for around $95 from best buy. Today 1TB ssd by sandisk is $166(the cheapest that i found, and it goes for $199 in walmart). Market is forcing people to become renters than buyers and there is no force countering that idea. Its a market failure that people will study 10-15 years from now. EDIT- The same 2TB ssd is now $329.99 at bestbuy.
Ug. I picked up a 16TB hard disk last year for about $250. Went looking for another one last month and the same disk is about $500. Painful.
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#96“For AI workloads: The 245TB Micron 6600 ION provided up to 84 times better energy efficiency” How big of a deal is this part in relation to the initial upfront costs? I’m not privy to the cost of power for SSD
With a modern CPUs hitting 400W it's already a problem to fill a rack top down with servers like you could do before: too many heat to dissipate and transfer, too much power to provide in the first place. Just imagine something like 2S 9565 in at least 2U machines: with 10 server x 2U x 2 CPU you would have 8kW in the processors alone and you didn't even fill half of the 42U rack. https://www.amd.com/en/products/proc…
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Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
#97We bought a 2TB Sandisk SSD back in 2024 for around $95 from best buy. Today 1TB ssd by sandisk is $166(the cheapest that i found, and it goes for $199 in walmart). Market is forcing people to become renters than buyers and there is no force countering that idea. Its a market failure that people will study 10-15 years from now. EDIT- The same 2TB ssd is now $329.99 at bestbuy.
It's not a market failure, it's just supply and demand. There are many computer components competing for the same resources (fabs, wafers). Demand for GPUs, RAM etc. has increased a lot due to AI, but supply is still the same due to new fabs being huge investments that take years to build. Of course the price goes up.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
They haven't released details but I was able to find a Solidigm D5-P5336 122.88TB drive for around 40,000 USD, as a guideline. So ... more than that.
Okay, so that 122TB drive costs about $330/TB. I haven't bought a hard drive or an SSD in at least a decade (I get stuff for free, basically) but…that seems a bit high, right? Seems like well-rated consumer-level SSDs cost around $250 for 1TB right now. What accounts for the premium price/TB of these extremely high capacity enterprise-targeted drives?
What accounts for the premium price/TB of these extremely high capacity enterprise-targeted drives?
The extremely high capacity and the enterprise targeting.
Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
#99We bought a 2TB Sandisk SSD back in 2024 for around $95 from best buy. Today 1TB ssd by sandisk is $166(the cheapest that i found, and it goes for $199 in walmart). Market is forcing people to become renters than buyers and there is no force countering that idea. Its a market failure that people will study 10-15 years from now. EDIT- The same 2TB ssd is now $329.99 at bestbuy.
It's not a market failure, it's just supply and demand. There are many computer components competing for the same resources (fabs, wafers). Demand for GPUs, RAM etc. has increased a lot due to AI, but supply is still the same due to new fabs being huge investments that take years to build. Of course the price goes up.
The demand side is the world's "investors" buying up a product without producing profit. This results in locking out companies operating without such "investors" from accessing the product and using it to produce profit. This is a failure.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
The prices aren't going down for large consumer drives because the market is so small, and because the AI DC market is swallowing up everything. There's little demand from your average consumer to have 30TB of storage, let alone specifically SSDs. The average user doesn't have that much data, and if they do a HDD is fine for any practical purpose. Despite the recent AI bubble you can still buy HDDs in the tens of TBs…
>The average user doesn't have that much data The average user consumes that much quite regularly. They've been taught to stream it off of someone else's computer, mostly so that the next time they stream it they can be compelled to pay for it again. It's fun going back to dumb terminals.
But they don't local store that much data, which is what would be relevant for a discussion above local storage costs.