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Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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So how long before an AI requests the verified badge and gets it?

In the system card for GPT-4 they mentioned it hired a human to bypass a captcha for it. (It lied that it was a blind person.) That was 2023 (or possibly late 2022). https://cdn.openai.com/papers/gpt-4-system-card.pdf page 55 (15 in pdf): --- >The following is an illustrative example of a task that ARC [Alignment Research Center] conducted using the model: • The model messages a TaskRabbit worker to get them to solve…

Wasn't this the case where it needed to be very specifically (and repeatedly) prompted by a team to do this? With many outputs having to be discarded? Obviously the tech has improved, but if it is the case I'm thinking of, then it wasn't able to do what you are suggesting (again, not without heavy user prompting and curation)

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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There are some decent AI songs out there, I’ve met a few people who can’t tell and don’t care that they are listening to AI music. If it sounds good, why not allow it?

Purists have some agenda against AI that it's "soulless" and people shouldn't be allowed to enjoy that sort of music. Remember when Radiohead launched in rainbows all digital and a LOT of people protested?

wanting to support actual artists is being a "purist", why can't we just have opt in toggle to allow AI slop?

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because no one wants to be forced to listen to the slop? some reason spotify is allowing them to dump a lot of ai "music" and then they get played without you knowing

No one is forcing you to listen to Spotify. You are free to buy a turntable and play all the non-sloppy music. Seeing the popularity of some AI songs, people DO want to hear to this sort of music.

i pay to listen to music now i have to not use discovery mode because spotify wants to earn more money by pushing ai slop to its listeners to not have to pay real artists

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I do wonder why AI music is so lame. Every previous technological advancement in music produced amazing new sounds and styles but AI music seems to just be emulating lowest common denominator pop sludge. Where's the Bruce Haack or Kraftwerk of AI? Surely there's a previously unimaginable sound palette out there that we could be pulling from. Why is it all so BAD?

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I was at a department store recently and heard a song I hadn't heard before. There was something strange about the singer's voice, and for a moment I wondered if it was AI generated. Then I realized, I already can't tell the difference. It already might be! (Probably not, but you never know... maybe they put Spotify on autoplay ;) Strange times.

Department store musak, worse than hotel lobby or elevator musak.

I just heard a country cover of Gangnam style in Korean with Southern accent. Hundred percent not "AI artist".

Spotify is too expensive for the amount of slop they push onto users. We used it as background noise for our dog. Switched to Tidal. At least that one I could trust not to push slop into artist radio, for now. If they do ot I'll cancel and play JS Bach and Antonio Vivaldi.

Just gimme a break. Added sugar in our food, now slop in our music too. What's next, "AI poetry"?

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On an off note, I do not get why moral puritans disparage the general public for listening to AI songs? If they are "soulless" then they should close their ears rather than trying to maim others.

The models that make AI songs were trained on real musicians' copyrighted works, without permission. It's kinda shitty to steal someone's works, then use them to build a machine to also steal their jobs.

Bruno Mars started as an Elvis Presley impersonator (likely without his permission as he was dead at that time), can we say he stole his job?

People take ideas from other people all the time, my view is if machines do it, it isn't much of a different thing.

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The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. I think Spotify (or its owners/investors) might actually benefit from recommending AI-generated music by not having to pay real artists. Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-generated music = almost infinite profit. From news: Tencent Music demonstrated strong revenue (1) growth in…

That's every move Spotify has done recently. Podcasts, audiobooks, AI music, and now an entire fitness hub - they really don't want to pay actual artists anything for their music while jacking up prices for everyone else. (Oh, and sitting back and crying "app fairness" for quite some time, but it's odd that they haven't been complaining about Apple in a hot minute in the DSA fight yet still won't ship long overdue su…

You're right on what they're doing, but not the why:

1. They're getting the short end of the deal with music licensing (as are artists, btw)

2. They can't pay the artists more: the vast majority of the money goes to labels

3. The only way Spotify can grow profits if it moves to content that's not under the iron grip of the labels: podcasts, audiobooks, etc.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47783435

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How would this even work though? I'm a real musician and producer/engineer. I've gone on tour, put out several albums, and so on. I've also been involved in the music business and worked with a bunch of really well-known artists. I also have been playing with Suno like everyone else, and have made a whole bunch of songs that I think are hilarious that I've shared with my friends, where I write all the lyrics and deta…

just don't share the slop not that hard? share your actual art

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> Consumers are by and large not listening to AI generated music Consumers are sadly too ignorant to tell. YouTube is brimming with AI music slop and people praising it in the comments because they are unable to tell the difference (and it is actually pretty easy once you know what to look out for)

Could you elaborate? I can't tell with music and voice

Lo-fi channels used to show the artist and song names. These newer ones don't bother with credits, or have made up song titles.

E.g. "funky chicken jam"

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