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Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by reconnecting »

mjr00 wrote: post #26
reconnecting wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Lie. You will not. You need to go through the distributor (1), and it has always been this way. Er yes, which is why I mentioned LANDR and Amuse, both of which are on the page you linked. I mentioned those two specifically because I know they don't charge up-front and instead take a % of royalties, so they're ideal for flooding Spotify with AI slop. I'm not sure which part you think is a lie. > You need to go throu…

Apologies, I had correct my comment prior to your reply.

> Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify.

No one is allowed to upload directly to Spotify. However, I wasn't aware that distributors might not vet content prior to publishing.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by post-it »

sigmonsays wrote: post #22
bilsbie wrote: post #15

Someone should make a free streaming service that’s only AI music. I’m not that picky.

That actually hurts a little. I hope you reconsider, music is an art, and allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works over and over and be ok with it is awful. Art is to be experienced and enjoyed, not just take whatever trash is thrown at you and be ok with it.

Plenty of people use music as a fidget toy while working or studying. Not everything has to be a masterpiece.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by uncircle »

mjr00 wrote: post #20
reconnecting wrote: post #12

The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. I think Spotify (or its owners/investors) might actually benefit from recommending AI-generated music by not having to pay real artists. Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-generated music = almost infinite profit. From news: Tencent Music demonstrated strong revenue (1) growth in…

> The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify. There's nothing stopping me, you, or anyone from generating AI tracks with Suno & friends, downloading them, and using a service like LANDR or Amuse to distribute them to Spotify, all for free. > Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-…

> Consumers are by and large not listening to AI generated music

Consumers are sadly too ignorant to tell. YouTube is brimming with AI music slop and people praising it in the comments because they are unable to tell the difference (and it is actually pretty easy once you know what to look out for)

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by jrumbut »

Semaphor wrote: post #17
coldpie wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can Spotify actually become human- and artist-first? No, it can't. Its founder Daniel Ek is a war profiteer. He is by definition anti-human. Spotify itself is actively anti-artist. It has the lowest pay rates in the industry and is embracing AI replacing humans so they can pay humans even less. Stop using it and vote with your wallet. Literally any alternative you choose is an improvement for artists over Spotify.…

Big Bandcamp fan, I get almost all my music from there. But their AI removal (well, or piracy removal for that matter) is rather lacking. Any action takes over a week, sometimes more. Just like with clear piracy (pre release leaks have been up for months), and when they do, they just remove it, whoever bought it is out of luck. I love the site, but they have a long way to go.

They have been great for what I use them for, occasion niche discoveries, but I'm not sure they replace Spotify for the "hop in my car and my favorite mainstream hits begin playing without having to think too hard about it" use case.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by [deleted] »

coldpie wrote: post #11
dlivingston wrote: post #4

Can I have a way to exclude all AI-generated music from my recommended songs as well? Doesn't this only verify against content farms, not AI in general (i.e. I can get verified after making all the AI slop I want, as long as my human name is attached to it)? Can Spotify actually become human- and artist-first? Remember the magic of 8Tracks community made playlists? Those were incredible. And compared to Spotify's alt…

> Can Spotify actually become human- and artist-first? No, it can't. Its founder Daniel Ek is a war profiteer. He is by definition anti-human. Spotify itself is actively anti-artist. It has the lowest pay rates in the industry and is embracing AI replacing humans so they can pay humans even less. Stop using it and vote with your wallet. Literally any alternative you choose is an improvement for artists over Spotify.…

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by Dig1t »

reconnecting wrote: post #12

The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. I think Spotify (or its owners/investors) might actually benefit from recommending AI-generated music by not having to pay real artists. Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-generated music = almost infinite profit. From news: Tencent Music demonstrated strong revenue (1) growth in…

There are some decent AI songs out there, I’ve met a few people who can’t tell and don’t care that they are listening to AI music.

If it sounds good, why not allow it?

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by niek_pas »

sigmonsays wrote: post #22
bilsbie wrote: post #15

Someone should make a free streaming service that’s only AI music. I’m not that picky.

That actually hurts a little. I hope you reconsider, music is an art, and allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works over and over and be ok with it is awful. Art is to be experienced and enjoyed, not just take whatever trash is thrown at you and be ok with it.

My take is that music _can be_ an art but it can also be other things, the same way sequential photos played back quickly can be an art but can also be a screensaver.

(I say this as a musician if that gets me extra cred somehow.)

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Post by gynecologist »

post-it wrote: post #32
sigmonsays wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That actually hurts a little. I hope you reconsider, music is an art, and allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works over and over and be ok with it is awful. Art is to be experienced and enjoyed, not just take whatever trash is thrown at you and be ok with it.

Plenty of people use music as a fidget toy while working or studying. Not everything has to be a masterpiece.

There's more quality ambient music out there recorded by actual humans than you can listen to in a lifetime already.
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