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Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by rustystump »

liveoneggs wrote: post #85
rambambram wrote: post #42

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

curate your watch history a little bit

This doesnt help. Youtube is weird. On one hand, the majority of watch time is Beast brain rot like content but on the other hand, there is genuinely amazing creativity happening. The issue is discovery.

Youtube cannot help with discovery because it does not increase watch time. It is far more likely that an autoplay of a “safe known” video will be watched then something new.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by thomastjeffery »

osigurdson wrote: post #76
rickcarlino wrote: post #28

My biggest concern about Youtube is that they do not truly have a competitor. They just raised premium prices again making it one of my most expensive entertainment subscriptions.

The barrier to entry seems pretty low, technically at least. Maybe someone will create something with a different twist that will catch on. TikTok was able to carve out a niche after all.

There is no barrier, only a moat. The moat is enforced by copyright.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by carlosjobim »

rickcarlino wrote: post #28

My biggest concern about Youtube is that they do not truly have a competitor. They just raised premium prices again making it one of my most expensive entertainment subscriptions.

Netflix, Disney, Paramount, cable TV, satellite TV, Twitch, etc etc

It's like saying McDonalds doesn't have any competitor.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by Cider9986 »

dmbche wrote: post #84
rickcarlino wrote: post #28

My biggest concern about Youtube is that they do not truly have a competitor. They just raised premium prices again making it one of my most expensive entertainment subscriptions.

Newpipe and freepipe!

Exactly. Isn't this supposed to be Hacker news? I find it hard to believe that there are people on this site without an adblocker.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by jorvi »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #79
rambambram wrote: post #42

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

Agreed. It painfully overfits based on what I've watched. I've watched thousands of videos and it still doesn't understand me at all because it appears to treat every action as equal. As an example, I like watching the Starcraft II streamer uThermal but I'm not really interested in other Starcraft II content creators because uThermal scratches that itch. However YouTube will keep showing me Starcraft II content creat…

The worst is that if you're someone who enjoys multiple niche things and who also interacts with the algorithm (like - dislike - not interested) your account gets marked as content discovery vanguard and it will endlessly feed you videos with Even if you consistently "not interested", the algorithm never ever figures out the overlapping theme is that you (generally) don't like low view count low subscriber count content.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by Gagarin1917 »

kotaKat wrote: post #19
Gagarin1917 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is it being shoved down anyone’s throat? You literally have to intentionally click a short video or use the shorts tab to see any YouTube short.

You click the button to hide the card of Shorts on the home page and it just says We'll show you fewer Shorts on Home Not "no more", but "fewer". Which means you don't get a choice, YouTube will still shove them down your throat.

That’s not shoving them down anyone’s throats.

If you don’t want to watch a short, don’t click on it. Just like if you don’t want to watch a video about a certain topic, you don’t click on it.

Seeing that they exist is in no way an inconvenience or annoyance. You’re supposed to just watch what you want.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by adrianwaj »

I think the lesson for other media companies is to get all their content into a single online "property" or are their anti-trust issues involved?

There's a very low bar for anyone in the world to watch YouTube with a handheld device and an internet connection. What am I missing?

I suppose it's their ad program and fast-acting content ID system that juice it - that'd be the hard part to get right.

X has a lot of video content too - why not present it better in a video-focused version? Get rid of the "X" branding though - it's not a rating. Maybe "Y"?

Micropayments should be tied into all compensation now. x402 as well for monetization.

Perhaps if Soundcloud did video it'd be a challenger and there's one area Soundcloud lacks but should be able to capitalize on - music videos as uploaded by artists themselves.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by xtracto »

beezlebroxxxxxx wrote: post #66
hitekker wrote: post #40

I pay for YouTube Premium. No ads; I feel like it respects my time. Algorithm is well tailored too. The “remove video thumbnail” and “remove YouTube shorts” chrome extension is a must install though.

What is shocking about youtube's advertising is just how bad the supposedly "targeted" aspect of it is. The entire original advantage these tech companies had over traditional entertainment and media companies was their access to data and their ability to use that for targeted advertising. It was supposed to be a win-win, so they claimed. The viewer would get targeted advertising to match their interests and brands w…

"The ads are just garbage"

But the interesting thing is that, statistically what they are serving maximizes their revenue. So they have the best version of what they want to do, and it keeps maximizing their objectives (profit).

The problem is that such objective became somewhat perpendicular to what some people like. It's funny but maybe watching that stupid Ad, somehow makes you do something that in the end makes them profit.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by guzfip »

FireBeyond wrote: post #77
guzfip wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. Yep, for some reasons the recommendation engines seem to have become “oh you glanced at this post for 2 second or you watched a single video, this must be exclusively what you want” I’ve seen it on social media too, notably Facebook.

>Yep, for some reasons the recommendation engines seem to have become “oh you glanced at this post for 2 second or you watched a single video, this must be exclusively what you want” Worse than that, at times my home page feed has been 5-10% "Here's a video you've already watched all the way through . Want to watch it again ?" recommendations. Like YT can see I've watched the video - why are so many videos I've watch…

Oh man, I think I had a subscription to HBO through YouTube

Then HBO did a machine gun fire of price increases so I cancelled.

For the next few weeks every single YouTube recommended video was an HBO show/movie.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by nitrat3 »

When will Youtube - Block "unverified" browsers? - Force KYC or Youtube premium to watch videos?

In their ongoing fight against yt-dlp and others i can already not watch videos using VPNs.

Adblockers has made most tech people unaware of the enshittification of most web services. For most normal people when they eventually make this change it will not affect them at all.

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