Instantly signed up. I'm already moving most of my clients out of any US-based offering. Azure and Jira are sticky, but they'll be out sooner or later.
Jira is Australian.
Say No to Palantir in Europe
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Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#92But it’s already widespread in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands. Amsterdam Airport uses it, as do the Dutch police and the Dutch army. So shouldn’t it be: kick out Palantir?
Oh man I'm in NL, didn't know that, that's. .. dark.
"Dutch police also use controversial AI intelligence software by American Palantir" - https://nltimes.nl/2025/08/22/dutch-police-also-use-controve...
"Palantir is well on its way to conquering Europe" - https://www.euractiv.com/news/palantir-is-well-on-its-way-to...
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ex-Colleagues are launching a startup right now: No US-Services from the beginning on, only OpenSource and this new EU-Office thingy. I think more companies will join the train? Esp new & smaller ones, for sure there is no option for bigCorp like ASML to be free of US-cloud, but maybe its gaining traction.
Surprised by this take. Building a startup is already insanely hard. So I wouldn’t like to add more challenge by spending time integrating with non-US services if they are not top just because of my political views. I feel a better answer is for Europe to build real, competitive alternatives to US services.
So now you know how much it matter :)
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#94The UK has decided to terminate Palantir contracts when they become due for renewal. Not before time.
Not before handing over an enormous cache of NHS patient data to them during the pandemic. If memory serves, this was not kept on NHS hardware or even NHS controlled compute.
If memory serves, this was not kept on NHS hardware or even NHS controlled compute.
Does anyone have a verifiable source for that? It would be extremely controversial if true and even among the big civil liberties and privacy advocacy groups in the UK I have never seen anyone make that claim.
The defence to using Palantir by British government departments and public services has typically been that Palantir only provides the technology and the data itself is still held and processed in the UK under the native organisation's control. Even this is still controversial because of issues like the CLOUD Act and the general reputation of Palantir.
But that is a long way from allowing the mass export of sensitive personal data to a US firm without the data subjects' knowledge or consent. That looks just plain illegal under our existing data protection legislation. Green lighting it - even in the panic phase during COVID - would probably be controversial enough to end a few political careers at least. It might even leave enough of a cloud over the party in government at the time to affect a future election.
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#95I'm just wondering why this isn't a European Citizen Initiative (ECI)...
I could not find any information on what kind of influence a online-petition on wemove.eu would have...
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
>"Public opinion can def have effect if you live in a democracy." Having ability to choose between 2 sides of the same ass does not look like much of democracy. Never mind the money the candidate has to have and where this money comes from. And what happens to this democracy when the bills come due and the interest on government borrowing "on behalf" can no longer be paid.
when the bills come due you just print more money :)
Nope. Government borrows money from investors. including big ones. at some points the investors might come back with a different proposal. peasants can potentially do something about it as well.
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#97> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran. Ah yes, European issues
Also "ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization it makes me question all their other arguments.
> ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization
It's accurate. They do separate families. How or why doesn't matter, the fact stands in its own. It's not a "mischaracterization", it's a fact.
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#98But it’s already widespread in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands. Amsterdam Airport uses it, as do the Dutch police and the Dutch army. So shouldn’t it be: kick out Palantir?
Amsterdam Airport? Source?
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ex-Colleagues are launching a startup right now: No US-Services from the beginning on, only OpenSource and this new EU-Office thingy. I think more companies will join the train? Esp new & smaller ones, for sure there is no option for bigCorp like ASML to be free of US-cloud, but maybe its gaining traction.
Surprised by this take. Building a startup is already insanely hard. So I wouldn’t like to add more challenge by spending time integrating with non-US services if they are not top just because of my political views. I feel a better answer is for Europe to build real, competitive alternatives to US services.
The eu can not move and function in any capacity standalone. The moment the is dropped out the eu tried to fill that hole with the other allies atoll.
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#100How do we differentiate between genuine empathy and love for the world and simple virtue signalling?
If USA weren't the one safeguarding (contentious but please read on) the world and its modern interests then we would end up with something much worse.
If you only focus locally, it is quite easy to dismiss any form of killing, any form of surveillance and any form of inconvenience. This is "Defund the Police" meme all over again.
I gain social points by showing my disgust against the killings and murder done by the west. I gain nothing by promoting what they safeguard and promote that is necessary for the world to function. Such dynamics will lead to self ownage at the long run but social status points for oneself in the short term.