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Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Traubenfuchs wrote: post #74
_pdp_ wrote: post #70

I find it amusing that one of the main things to do with OpenClaw and other similar tools is create a Web Interface on top of it so that users can click on buttons when the entire promise of the technology is that you don't have to do any of that because it transcends standard UI. I mean, ultimately why would you even need a CRM if not to sell something? And if you are going to sell something ultimately you want to g…

To make this easier we could develop some kind of… query or… command language for this. Take OPs example… > I am addicted now that I can ask it, “hey in the companies table only show me the ones who have more than 5 employees” Now how could that command language look like, maybe something like… PICK * of COMPANIES if EMPLOYEE_COUNT >10; We could call this DCCL: Dench Claw Command Language!

It is called SQL and the tool is called sqlite.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by mattnewton »

_pdp_ wrote: post #91
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To make this easier we could develop some kind of… query or… command language for this. Take OPs example… > I am addicted now that I can ask it, “hey in the companies table only show me the ones who have more than 5 employees” Now how could that command language look like, maybe something like… PICK * of COMPANIES if EMPLOYEE_COUNT >10; We could call this DCCL: Dench Claw Command Language!

It is called SQL and the tool is called sqlite.

That’s the joke :)

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by jesse_dot_id »

lnrd wrote: post #89
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #49

OpenClaw opens a wide attack surface on your digital life that cannot be remediated so long as hallucinations and prompt injection remain unsolved problems. Anything built on top of it is equally insecure and probably even more insecure. I really don't want to yuck anybody's yums or step on dev work that I had nothing to do with, because I've been there and I know it sucks, but OpenClaw is barely secure enough to eve…

I like the idea of OpenClaw a lot, it's a technology that I would want in my life. But in it's current form it's kinda chilling and I cannot see it become safe to use anytime soon. It seems to me many infosec best practices that have been built over decades have been forgot in the last few months like nothing happened. People really do give this kind of software full system access, plus access to their emails, their…

I think a lot of them are aware of it, but also grifters, and hoping to profit off of it before the bomb goes off so that they can claim ignorance and escape blame. New and powerful thing that people don't fully understand becomes fertile ground for grifters to sew their sins. Like when Marie Curie discovered radium and everyone and their mother started forcing it into products, including toothpaste and "medicine", within like 5-10 years.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by himmi-01 »

kumar_abhirup wrote: post #36
strongpigeon wrote: post #19

One on hand, this is genuinely cool. On the other end, this is the final nail in cold outreach's coffin.

Ha, I get why it looks that way from the CRM angle, but outreach is maybe 5% of what I actually use DenchClaw for day to day. Yesterday I asked it to pull up all my meeting notes from last week, cross-reference them with my task list, and draft follow-ups. Before that I had it reorganize a messy folder of research PDFs into a structured workspace. I use it to build slides, write code (DenchClaw literally built DenchC…

I think this explanation is much easier to grasp :). And simpler to introduce to people, as many of the tech people still prefer better UX.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by ohthehugemanate »

tuesdaynight wrote: post #80

Are small local models good enough for driving OpenClaw-likes or an API key from one of the big labs is needed?

Depends on what you're using it for I suppose. A common tactic with Openclaw itself is to have a cheap or local model as the default, with rules to "escalate" to other models based on task complexity/type. But if every cron job comes with complete access to your personal machine and browser profile... Yeah, better go for the most predictable model you can find.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by navaed01 »

AykutSek wrote: post #55
kumar_abhirup wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Data gathering / creating / updating / filtering / creating reports, Doing certain action on every data entry (like sending email), etc. Telling DenchClaw to "make it less robotic" on 300+ personalised drafts is still better than me actually making it less robotic myself imo

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Dench, is that you?

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by mickael-kerjean »

kumar_abhirup wrote: post #44

Everything is skills. In a file system. That is the future. Responding to some HN comments, I understand the focus on Sales Automation and Outreach can be worrysome. But for me personally, this is where I do all knowledge work. For me it acts like Cursor, Happenstance, News Aggregator, Fun games creator like Pacman (it has an App Store), I can import Notion into editable MD files, create reports and presentations, et…

That's exactly the direction I took with Filestash (https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash) where everything is treated as a filesystem with fine-grained control to handle authorisation, plus a virtual filesystem layer to create completely new filesystems that don't 1 to 1 map to reality.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by [deleted] »

kumar_abhirup wrote: post #36
strongpigeon wrote: post #19

One on hand, this is genuinely cool. On the other end, this is the final nail in cold outreach's coffin.

Ha, I get why it looks that way from the CRM angle, but outreach is maybe 5% of what I actually use DenchClaw for day to day. Yesterday I asked it to pull up all my meeting notes from last week, cross-reference them with my task list, and draft follow-ups. Before that I had it reorganize a messy folder of research PDFs into a structured workspace. I use it to build slides, write code (DenchClaw literally built DenchC…

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