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thanks for sharing that's helpful. I've heard similar to more moderate ill effects from the therapy
This video on YT explains the not much talked about side effects and risks that can come from egg retrieval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMrwAGR3GA
The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
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Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
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The grandparent situation is sad af. It's also pretty sad being a mid-40s year old dad that doesn't have the energy to keep up with their kid. I pitched a little league game yesterday and it wiped me out. Also, the fact I (and you) will not know our grandchildren very well also is quite sad. If my son has his first kid the same age I had him, I'll be in my 80s when that kid is starting little league (or that age). Th…
If you had kids earlier, you wouldn't get more time with the specific person you love that is your son, you'd get more time with a different son. No doubt you'd love your counterfactual son too. But you shouldn't feel bad for having done any wrong by your real kid. This is the only timeline he could exist in. Bit of a thorny philosophical argument, maybe, but reasonable in this case.
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The grandparent situation is sad af. It's also pretty sad being a mid-40s year old dad that doesn't have the energy to keep up with their kid. I pitched a little league game yesterday and it wiped me out. Also, the fact I (and you) will not know our grandchildren very well also is quite sad. If my son has his first kid the same age I had him, I'll be in my 80s when that kid is starting little league (or that age). Th…
>by delaying parenthood - I was just being selfish.. I minimized "shared time on earth" Exactly. My advice to anyone is not wait. If we hadn't, we would have found out sonner that we needed to go through that process. It's not a "wake up and schedule an appointment tomorrow" kind of thing, it's a treatment of last resort and you can burn years trying, going through evaluations and alternatives first.
The stuff we weeded out was on my wife’s side and the boy ended up being my clone. We joke about it as if we weeded out all of her genes. Even small things like his cowlicks and how his teeth are coming it are exactly like mine which I never would have expected to even be possible (I never gave it much thought tbh)
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
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I went through it with my wife too and expecting a 19 y/o women to go through the IVF process as an insurance policy is a bit insane to me. In our modern, western society, this is age is still solidly childhood with not much definitive thoughts of future family, marriage, etc. Governments need to make COL more affordable, birth rate will go up naturally
Calling 19 "childhood" is crazy. Most teens have an understanding of what they want their life to look like.
I know there’s a lot of “whys” but not getting married, not having kids, living with parents, etc all compound to remaining a child in some sense and this is continuing well into the 20s and even 30s for a large portion of the demographic.
When it comes to 19 y/o women the fact most internet people would find it gross that 1) highly fertile and 2) desired by old men - is a reality. We tell old men these women are too young yet also won’t admit it’s because they are in some sense still children.
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#95Since having kids is so tiring in the early years and often lead to a divorce, it is better to have them early when you are still fresh and handle better the lack of sleep, divorce early and then enjoy part time parenthood when you are still youngish. I feel I am a better parent now that I am sharing custody of my kids and can better balance personal life and hobbies and parenthood. A cheaper option would be to find…
Which is much easier with the added emotional maturity and life experience that comes with age.
Not to mention if you chose your partner after the age of 25.
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
thanks for sharing that's helpful. I've heard similar to more moderate ill effects from the therapy
This video on YT explains the not much talked about side effects and risks that can come from egg retrieval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMrwAGR3GA
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you had kids earlier, you wouldn't get more time with the specific person you love that is your son, you'd get more time with a different son. No doubt you'd love your counterfactual son too. But you shouldn't feel bad for having done any wrong by your real kid. This is the only timeline he could exist in. Bit of a thorny philosophical argument, maybe, but reasonable in this case.
Have considered that as well but shared time with that person would have been more and I would be none the wiser to the actual timeline, so I feel it’s appropriate to treat them as the same “child” instead of theoretical kid vs actual kid and how I’m happy I waited because this kid is so cool, pretty sure I would have felt the same towards the other kid (who knows maybe not but even if he was a jerk of a kid I’d assu…
Sticking to the philosophical arguments, having the kid at any other time, even earlier would not guarantee more time with them. It would have drastically shifted your life events which could include ones that possibly shorten it.
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#98Having done IVF with my wife I think this is the most underrated fertility advice available today. I don't understand why governments of countries with increasing average age and low birth rate don't pay for this for all women. This is one the best pro-family policies that can be implemented.
Instead of doing what the body is natural designed to do lets go fully against it because of the current environment.
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#99This is an article that you need to read critically, beyond the headline. Even a few paragraphs down they say this: > The optimal age to freeze eggs varies depending on the source and metric, but almost all sources agree it's sometime between 19 and 26. So there's some heavy bias inserted already into the title. The next chart shows a peak around 19, but if you read the fine print it's not a chart about eggs at all.…
Well, the website is called lesswrong.com, and not correct.com.
Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19
#100Having done IVF with my wife I think this is the most underrated fertility advice available today. I don't understand why governments of countries with increasing average age and low birth rate don't pay for this for all women. This is one the best pro-family policies that can be implemented.