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Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by vintagedave »

dotxlem wrote: post #26
torben-friis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The system data issue on macOS is awful. I use my MacBook for a mix of dev work and music production and between docker, music libraries, update caches and the like it’s not weird for me to have to go for a fresh install once every year or two. Once that gets filled up, it’s pretty much impossible to understand where the giant block of memory is.

I had the same problem and had some luck cleaning things up by enabling "calculate all sizes" in Finder, which will show you the total directory size, and makes it a bit easier to look for where the big stuff is hiding. You'll also want to make sure to look through hidden directories like ~/Library; I found a bunch of Docker-related stuff in there which turned out to be where a lot of my disk space went. You can enab…

Also DaisyDisk! Beautiful app. Perfect for discovering this kind of thing.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by 16bitvoid »

Aurornis wrote: post #6

This GitHub issue itself is clearly AI slop. If you’ve been dealing with GitHub issues in the past months it will be obvious, but it’s confirmed at the end: > Filed via Claude Code I assume part of it is true, but determining which part is true is the hard part. I’ve lost a lot of time chasing AI-written bug reports that were actually something else wrong with the user’s computer. I’m assuming the claims of “75% fast…

If your codebase is entirely vibe coded, I feel it only appropriate to permit issues being vibed as well. It's hypocritical otherwise.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by jccx70 »

felixrieseberg wrote: post #79

Hi, Felix from Anthropic here. I work on Claude Cowork and Claude Code. Claude Cowork uses the Claude Code agent harness running inside a Linux VM (with additional sandboxing, network controls, and filesystem mounts). We run that through Apple's virtualization framework or Microsoft's Host Compute System. This buys us three things we like a lot: (1) A computer for Claude to write software in, because so many user pro…

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Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by perbu »

brunooliv wrote: post #86

I really love Anthropic's models, but, every single product/feature I've used other than the Claude Code CLI has been terrible... The CLI just "sticked" for me and I've never needed (or arguably looked in depth) any other features. This for my professional dayjob. For personal use, where I have a Pro subscription and adventure into exploring all the other features/products they have... I mean, the experience outside…

Yes. This is my experience as well. The software quality is generally horrible. It surely has improved a lot over the last couple of months, but it is still pretty horrible.

It is quite normal for me to have to force-close Claude Desktop.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by jFriedensreich »

prmph wrote: post #57
jFriedensreich wrote: post #47

Its just another example and just a detail in the broader story: We cannot trust any model provider with any tooling or other non model layer on our machines or our servers. No browsers, no cli, no apps no whatever. There may not be alternatives to frontier models yet, but everything else we need to own as true open source trustable layer that works in our interest. This is the battle we can win.

Why don't people form cooperatives, contribute to buy serious hardware and colocate them in local data centers, and run good local models like GLM on them to share?

We are starting to! TBH it will take some time until this is feasible at larger scale but we are running a test for this model in one of my community groups.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by linkregister »

rvz wrote: post #88
informal007 wrote: post #23

I believe that employees in Anthropocs use CC to develop CC now. AI really give much user ability to develop a completed product, but the quality is decreasing. Professional developers will be in demand when the products/features become popular. First batch of users of new products need to take more responsibility to test the product like a rats in lab

> AI really give much user ability to develop a completed product, but the quality is decreasing. Professional developers will be in demand when the products/features become popular. Looking at the amount of issues, outages and rookie mistakes the employees are making leads me to believe that most of them are below junior level. If anyone were to re-interview everyone at Anthropic for their own roles with their own i…

Claude consistently tops the leaderboard in software engineering benchmarks.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by threetonesun »

vachina wrote: post #29
torben-friis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The system data issue on macOS is awful. I use my MacBook for a mix of dev work and music production and between docker, music libraries, update caches and the like it’s not weird for me to have to go for a fresh install once every year or two. Once that gets filled up, it’s pretty much impossible to understand where the giant block of memory is.

Because Apple differentiates their products by their storage sizes, they also sell iCloud subscription. There is zero (in fact negative) incentive to respect your storage space.

Been a while since I needed to use it there but it always amazed me that the Windows implementation of iCloud was more flexible in terms of location and ability to decide what files got synced.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by baconner »

felixrieseberg wrote: post #79

Hi, Felix from Anthropic here. I work on Claude Cowork and Claude Code. Claude Cowork uses the Claude Code agent harness running inside a Linux VM (with additional sandboxing, network controls, and filesystem mounts). We run that through Apple's virtualization framework or Microsoft's Host Compute System. This buys us three things we like a lot: (1) A computer for Claude to write software in, because so many user pro…

FWIW I think many of us would actually very much love to have an official (or semi official) Claude sandboxing container image base / vm base. I wonder if you all have considered making something like the cowork vm available for that?

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by msp26 »

brunooliv wrote: post #86

I really love Anthropic's models, but, every single product/feature I've used other than the Claude Code CLI has been terrible... The CLI just "sticked" for me and I've never needed (or arguably looked in depth) any other features. This for my professional dayjob. For personal use, where I have a Pro subscription and adventure into exploring all the other features/products they have... I mean, the experience outside…

> every single product/feature I've used other than the Claude Code CLI has been terrible

yeah they're shipping too fast and everything is buggy as shit

- fork conversation button doesn't even work anymore in vscode extension

- sometimes when I reconnect to my remote SSH in VSCode, previously loaded chats become inaccessible. The chats are still there in the .jsonl files but for some reason the CC extension becomes incapable of reading them.

Re: Anthropic Cowork feature creates 10GB VM bundle on macOS without warning

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Post by jmalicki »

prmph wrote: post #32
torben-friis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The system data issue on macOS is awful. I use my MacBook for a mix of dev work and music production and between docker, music libraries, update caches and the like it’s not weird for me to have to go for a fresh install once every year or two. Once that gets filled up, it’s pretty much impossible to understand where the giant block of memory is.

Yep, it is an awful situation. I'm increasingly becoming frustrated with how Apple keeps disrespecting users. I downloaded several MacOS installers, not for the MacBook I use, but intending to use them to create a partitioned USB installer (they were for macOS versions that I could clearly not even use for my current MacBook). Then, after creating the USB, since I was short of space, I deleted the installers, includi…

Disk utility lets you delete them.
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