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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by uoaei »

mullingitover wrote: post #11

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

That would be detectable by the FAA and they would send the FBI after you, unless you used a junk toy drone but that would not cover much distance between charges.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by uoaei »

api wrote: post #58
mullingitover wrote: post #11

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

In Minecraft it’s well known that lasers of even moderate power can ruin camera sensors. Only in Minecraft though.

Reflections are a concern regarding bystanders' eye safety, be safe.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by andwur »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #76
staringforward wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Might be time to get a paintball gun Just wait until you find out that paintball guns are considered firearms are require licensing in the aforementioned region.

I played paintball in Australia and I just had to sign a normal waiver about them not being responsible for injuries

Ownership of paintball guns is regulated under the state-level firearms act in most (all?) states and territories.

You can use them under the direct supervision of the licensed owner, but it's still quite restrictive. If you were to take one and shoot at cameras on the street it would vandalism plus firearms offences, most of which start at inversion of innocence, massive fines and move pretty quickly into prison time.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by Izikiel43 »

FpUser wrote: post #66
monero-xmr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. But having video evidence is a powerful tool for a motivated prosecutor to actually take criminals off the streets

>"The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders" Sure. US prosecutors are so lenient that the US is the capital of incarceration

Depends a lot on the city/state. Check super blue cities like Seattle or San Francisco, and the people there complain that the justice system doesn't work as repeat offenders are let go, for one reason or another.

The big incarceration states are most likely deep red states.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by leoh »

odie5533 wrote: post #57

Flock cameras are assisted suicide for dying neighborhoods. They don't prevent crime, they record crime. Cleaning up vacant lots, planting trees, street lighting, trash removal, and traffic calming like adding planters and crosswalks reduce crime.

What is crime anymore when a felon is the president?

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by andwur »

terminalshort wrote: post #89
bigiain wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I am (Sydney Australia) we have fixed speed cameras that automatically create speeding fines to drivers going too fast (well, technically the registered owner of the vehicle via ANPR). They eventually had to equip pretty much every speed camera with a speed camera camera, usually on a much higher pole to make vandalism more difficult.

This will never be a thing in America. Good luck putting the camera on a pole higher than a redneck can shoot a rifle.

Sounds like a new remit for the NRO. Park a billion dollar satellite over an area to keep an eye out for petty vandalism. Then the sheriffs office can team up with Space Force: papers will be served immediately by LEO MIRV deployment, which may also count as execution depending on visibility and aim on the day.

/s - but it wouldn't surprise me at the rate things are going.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jbxntuehineoh wrote: post #88
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #67

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> All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint I (EDIT: hate) Flock Safety cameras. If someone did this in my town, I’d want them arrested. They’re muddying the moral clarity of the anti-Flock messaging, the ultimate goal in any protest. And if they’re willing to damage that property, I’m not convinced they understand why they shouldn’t da…

Oh no! Not property damage! We can't possibly go that far!

> Not property damage! We can't possibly go that far!

Anyone can go that far. The question is if it’s smart. The answer is it’s not. Acting out one’s need for machismo on a good cause is just selfish.

If I were a Flock PR person, I’d be waiting for someone to pull a stunt like this. (Better: they shoot it.)

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by TheBicPen »

kdogkshd wrote: post #26

If you're in the bay area, on Monday at 6:30 there's a mountain view city council meeting where flock is on the agenda. If this surveillance bothers you, show up!!

Do you have a link to the agenda? The only Monday meeting I see on the mountain view site is a Board of Library Trustees meeting

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

Aeglaecia wrote: post #82
thrance wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any evidence of what you're saying about prosecutors and video surveillance?

there exists evidence proving that a fraction of individuals commit the majority of violent crime. thus, incarcerating those particular individuals would inherently reduce the majority of violent crime. is something missing from this equation?

> is something missing from this equation?

Decades of historical evidence to the contrary.

If you’d like to have an informed opinion, at least engage with the academic material. Otherwise you come off sounding naïve, insisting that complex problems have simple solutions.

Edit: maybe my ears are a bit sensitive, but I can’t help but hear a faint whistle in the wind, maybe only at a frequency a dog could hear. But no, surely not here in gentlemanly company.

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