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40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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Is it a bad thing? People's life choices are their own. 29% seems like a fairly neutral number.

If you own shares in e.g. Costco, a long-term sustained trend of shrinking household sizes might give you pause.

I own shares of Costco and am a member and I’m not concerned.

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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post #61

Part of the "housing crisis" is older Americans aging-in-place and using way more home than they need too. A widow/er might occupy the same suburban single family home in retirement that could house 5 people.

For sure, but this is tied into the elder care crisis. My aunt is the sole occupant of a gigantic "2 family" [0]. Not even in the suburbs, but in what you'd describe as a small city downtown. She toys with the idea of assisted living, but the deal basically seems to be trading her house to buy in, and then a huge monthly ongoing fee. And we all know once you're in such a place, the rosy marketing about the care you'r…

The shortage of decent retirement communities is a problem in of itself. It's perfectly possible to make senior care homes that aren't awful. My grandmother lives in one, it's basically university with more expensive food and decor and slightly fewer classes. I'd move in today if they'd let me (and I had the cash). But it's soooo much cheaper to just slap people into tiny cells and provide the bare necessities.

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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post #61

Part of the "housing crisis" is older Americans aging-in-place and using way more home than they need too. A widow/er might occupy the same suburban single family home in retirement that could house 5 people.

For sure, but this is tied into the elder care crisis. My aunt is the sole occupant of a gigantic "2 family" [0]. Not even in the suburbs, but in what you'd describe as a small city downtown. She toys with the idea of assisted living, but the deal basically seems to be trading her house to buy in, and then a huge monthly ongoing fee. And we all know once you're in such a place, the rosy marketing about the care you'r…

She better get her affairs in order because if not somebody will be taking that house and it won't be her heirs. Details vary by state.

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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When I was a twentysomething, I had roommates. This saved money on rent and bulk purchases (which let me spend more time having fun and save money) and provided a starter-kit social circle in a new city. It also honed conflict-resolution skills and ability to be civil. And when I got a partner, it made moving in together smoother. Something I’ve noticed recently is many college graduates living alone. That’s fine. Bu…

Living alone is awesome, but I also had roommates while in university, and despite our differences, that was awesome too, it would have sucked to be alone. I guess living alone can be a sound decision, but it depends on context.

Exactly. “I love those **holes” is my fond sentiment. I rarely talk to them anymore but we all still consider each other best friends for life

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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post #61

Part of the "housing crisis" is older Americans aging-in-place and using way more home than they need too. A widow/er might occupy the same suburban single family home in retirement that could house 5 people.

That in itself is a failure of society, that someone who has spent X amount of time in a home they love, have lived life in, raised their children in etc. is implicit expected to sacrifice all that so younger people can take the space.

We just need to get better at redistributing our economic activity instead of concentrating everything in the same place and then wondering why everyone wants to live in the same and its unfeasible to house them all

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You definitely havent had bad roommates if you say that I lived in New York in an illegally-subdivided loft. Yes, I’ve had bad roommates. Yes, it felt overwhelming at first. And yes, I got over it, constraining the problem where possible and addressing it directly where necessary, a suite of skills that were probably instrumental in my start-up later working.

Not accusing you of this directly, but this sounds like trying to get people to just accept lower living standards.

If living alone is "higher living standards" why are we even talking about this article?

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For sure, but this is tied into the elder care crisis. My aunt is the sole occupant of a gigantic "2 family" [0]. Not even in the suburbs, but in what you'd describe as a small city downtown. She toys with the idea of assisted living, but the deal basically seems to be trading her house to buy in, and then a huge monthly ongoing fee. And we all know once you're in such a place, the rosy marketing about the care you'r…

She better get her affairs in order because if not somebody will be taking that house and it won't be her heirs. Details vary by state.

lol. I'm well aware of those legal details - lookback period, intestate succession, etc. The situation is so far from properly planned, but I've made my peace with it. I've at least got a signed healthcare proxy though!

One piece of advice of my own that I will throw out is to act quickly after someone's spouse dies to get them to sign the appropriate papers and get those details in order. Otherwise as the depression settles in they tend to "clam up" shortly thereafter and become extremely negative on doing anything like that. If you're an honest person you might feel bad doing this, like you're picking the bones of the dead, but just get over it and do what's best for everyone - dishonest people will have no such reservations.

(thank you for throwing out the advice in case I didn't know, though!)

Re: 40M Americans Live Alone, 29% of households

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It’s something europeans don’t yet understand, that “diversity” has utterly destroyed community, trust, and tranquility in the US; mostly because it has been forced upon people against their will in direct contradiction of the core tenets of the Constitution and founding principles of America. I realize hearing that or seeing that others may read that, may anger people who are deeply invested in the fraud that divers…

What is this legitimate research you speak of? Will you please provide sources?

https://youtu.be/MLwKFGjE2zY?si=H9RwqKjTOAO6c8Ct
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