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There's some good explanation of what this is all about here: https://streetcat.wiki/ Specially, details of the actual feeders: https://streetcat.wiki/index.php/Stray_Cat_Feeders

> Stupid Idiot is a now adopted cat, named after the markings on his face I'm glad for Mr. Stupid Idiot :D

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Yeah but do you need to criminalise membership, or does things like conspiracy, accomplace etc. cover it.

Membership in an organisation can be conclusive evidence you joined a criminal enterprise/criminal conspiracy, making the the entire debate somewhat moot. But fine, only joining the criminal conspiracy is illegal, being a member can be legal (you always have to join to become a member).

You'll get slander cases of people receiving membership they never applied for. Having your name on some list should never be a crime in itself.

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Don’t worry, if cats tasted good they would be receiving the same treatment! The amount of cruel farming practices, chemicals, unsustainable methods etc that the US uses while being forbidden in the rest of the world is inexcusable.

> if cats tasted good How do you know they don't? By all accounts dogs taste good, but there's only a small number of cultures that eat them.

Cats are also widely eaten: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_meat

But I think eating someone doesn't need to imply causing them as much suffering as our current farming practices do

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> Don’t worry, if cats tasted good they would be receiving the same treatment! I don't think that's true: dog meat isn't widely eaten, but enough countries do eat it to suggest it's palatable.

I used to work in the pet industry and an oft cited statistic was that 1,000,000 cats and dogs are euthanized every year in the US. It would never happen for cultural reasons but, it seems like China could be a booming market for selling these animals as meat instead of letting it all go to waste.

I think veterinary drug residue is a big concern here too

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I'm not vegan, but I'm always really surprised by the difference in how we see cats and pigs. See e.g. https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/pigs-factory-farms-venti... https://www.ted.com/talks/lewis_bollard_how_to_end_factory_f... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting The US also has basically no animal welfare laws for the vast majority of its animals

Future generations are gonna look back at us for our treatment of animals, especially farmed animals, much the way we look back at our slave owning ancestors. And just like we wonder how so many otherwise morally upstanding people participated in such an obviously abhorrent system as human slavery, they will think the same about people in our generation. Unfortunately, it turns out that social norms are extremely pow…

In his book Sapiens, Yuval Noah Harari called the farming of animals by humans "Nature's biggest fraud", which I always found to be an apt description.

It makes me wonder if humans are the only animals who "farm" other animals in some way (not on the same scale as humans do of course).

At the same time, it makes me wonder, "is being a parasitic animal socially better or worse than animals who farm fellow animals" ;).

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Future generations are gonna look back at us for our treatment of animals, especially farmed animals, much the way we look back at our slave owning ancestors. And just like we wonder how so many otherwise morally upstanding people participated in such an obviously abhorrent system as human slavery, they will think the same about people in our generation. Unfortunately, it turns out that social norms are extremely pow…

In his book Sapiens, Yuval Noah Harari called the farming of animals by humans "Nature's biggest fraud", which I always found to be an apt description. It makes me wonder if humans are the only animals who "farm" other animals in some way (not on the same scale as humans do of course). At the same time, it makes me wonder, "is being a parasitic animal socially better or worse than animals who farm fellow animals" ;).

There are ants that farm and "milk" aphids https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-you-know/farmer-ants-a...
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