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We need a remote-petting-arm so we can pet the cat'berts over long distance lines. Also a microphone for receiving feedback.

Or just walk over to the local cat rescue? Not every problem needs a technical, internet connected solution Some problems are easily solved with "just going out of the door and spending some time" (which, I know, is not a very HN answer, but well)

Touch Grass as a Service?

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#62

I'm not vegan, but I'm always really surprised by the difference in how we see cats and pigs. See e.g. https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/pigs-factory-farms-venti... https://www.ted.com/talks/lewis_bollard_how_to_end_factory_f... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting The US also has basically no animal welfare laws for the vast majority of its animals

Don’t worry, if cats tasted good they would be receiving the same treatment! The amount of cruel farming practices, chemicals, unsustainable methods etc that the US uses while being forbidden in the rest of the world is inexcusable.

> Don’t worry, if cats tasted good they would be receiving the same treatment!

I don't think that's true: dog meat isn't widely eaten, but enough countries do eat it to suggest it's palatable.

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#63
This seems like a great program!

Small anectode;

My wife runs a cafe in Ankara, Turkey. A week after opening a random cat walked in and claimed one of the chairs.

We started feeding him. Then another walked in... We left a large automated feeder outside and started spaying / neutering, vaccinating, deworming them. I think we neutered close to 20-30 cats. A couple needed medical intervention (broken limbs, infections etc). And 2 I had to put down because they were too far gone. This effort alone put the neighborhood kitten population in control.

The place was aimed at health conscious / vegan people so the theme fit with cats hanging around.

It is really emotionally and financially draining to do these things. I've been fortunate enough to fund everything myself but I assume it is hard when scale grows larger and there is not enough help.

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#64
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We essentially criminalize membership in other kinds of criminal groups centered around producing and sharing illegal content, the same should apply to animal abuse.

Yeah but do you need to criminalise membership, or does things like conspiracy, accomplace etc. cover it.

Membership in an organisation can be conclusive evidence you joined a criminal enterprise/criminal conspiracy, making the the entire debate somewhat moot.

But fine, only joining the criminal conspiracy is illegal, being a member can be legal (you always have to join to become a member).

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#65

I'm not vegan, but I'm always really surprised by the difference in how we see cats and pigs. See e.g. https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/pigs-factory-farms-venti... https://www.ted.com/talks/lewis_bollard_how_to_end_factory_f... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting The US also has basically no animal welfare laws for the vast majority of its animals

I suspect concerns about the impacts on agriculture are a big part of the reason why the Chinese authorities haven't clamped down on this stuff yet.

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#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a point but we are literally talking about an association whose entire and only raison d'etre is to perpetuate violent crime. Maybe it shouldn't be outright criminal, since people can potentially register for other reasons than to participate, but it definitely should at least be under scrutiny.

I don’t mean to defend people joining groups committing any kind of violence, but this is the kind of rhetoric being used by the far-right against their opponents, not only in the US; it is a terrible idea to allow policing based on “assumed intent”.

It's the same direction of travel as recent UK laws allowing police to stop people preparing to join protests if they think the accused might be planning to e.g. glue themselves to something.

IMO this is basically policing thought crimes. It worries me.

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post #63

This seems like a great program! Small anectode; My wife runs a cafe in Ankara, Turkey. A week after opening a random cat walked in and claimed one of the chairs. We started feeding him. Then another walked in... We left a large automated feeder outside and started spaying / neutering, vaccinating, deworming them. I think we neutered close to 20-30 cats. A couple needed medical intervention (broken limbs, infections…

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#69
post #5

There's some good explanation of what this is all about here: https://streetcat.wiki/ Specially, details of the actual feeders: https://streetcat.wiki/index.php/Stray_Cat_Feeders

This seems like a good initiative, but makes me wonder, isn't there a risk these cats will end up overeating when endless Internet-people click the feed-button?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t worry, if cats tasted good they would be receiving the same treatment! The amount of cruel farming practices, chemicals, unsustainable methods etc that the US uses while being forbidden in the rest of the world is inexcusable.

> Don’t worry, if cats tasted good they would be receiving the same treatment! I don't think that's true: dog meat isn't widely eaten, but enough countries do eat it to suggest it's palatable.

Expensive to breed carnivorous animals though. Chickens, cows, etc. you can directly raise on cheap vegetable matter.
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