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Re: Orion Browser

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Post by LeoPanthera »

baal80spam wrote: post #53
LeoPanthera wrote: post #25

I guess Safari is the only major browser left that is just a browser. Google is an ad company. Microsoft is an ad company. Mozilla is an ad company. Brave is a crypto company. And these next wave of browsers are all going to be infested with AI, I suppose. Apple sells phones.

> Brave is a crypto company Then it's doing an awful job because it allows the user to disable everything related to crypto in 3 clicks, to never see it again.

Do they have a browser without a crypto wallet in it?

Brave is a crypto company.

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by weikju »

freediver wrote: post #74
awill wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you plan to solve sync (bookmarks, history etc..) when going cross platform? iCloud makes things easy when it's just Mac/iOS, but that won't work for Linux. I use Linux at home, Mac at work, and have an iPhone, and very few apps look native and work seamlessly across all 3.

Orion is native on 2/3 and will soon be native on Linux too!

I noticed the reply didn't answer about sync...

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by theshrike79 »

roughly wrote: post #11

I really like Kagi, but I'm starting to get that same sense of anticipatory melancholy I used to get when I found a really good drug dealer back in the day - this product or service is fantastic, and I'm very happy to be able to give it money, but I recognize this is a short term affair and some day I'll be back to having to search for it again. I would continue to pay Kagi $10 a month forever for exactly the product…

Proton has entered the chat... :)

They used to be just about email. Now they have VPN a calendar, password manager, cloud storage and a google docs -style docs thing.

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by rkta »

flushedpancake wrote: post #89
autoexec wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are those still active? Elinks is I think. I'll have to grab the latest version of w3m

w3m hasn't been updated since 2023, and the author hasn't even had any activity on GitHub since July of that year, either, it seems - which given he's had at least 3 contributions a year since 2010 and then just suddenly dropped off the face of the earth, is pretty concerning to say the least.

There is an maintained (by me) fork at https://w3m-pager.org

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by mvieira38 »

joshjob42 wrote: post #82
freediver wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi founder here. I like simplicity too, but if that is the only thing I cared about I would have never attempted to build a paid search engine. We started working on the browser before we started working on search. There were many browsers and search engines before us, and all of them failed because you can not compete with an ecosystem company (Google) with a single product. If your customers use your search engin…

If Vimium would work in Orion I'd be happily paying for Orion+ and Kagi but sadly it doesn't.

Agree, either Vimium or Tridactyl or some other form of proprietary Vim bindings. Nothing feels quite as bad with browsers as programming with both hands on keyboard, poppping into the browser for a quick search and having to quick on stuff

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by gtirloni »

als0 wrote: post #37

Can anyone comment on how fast it is on macOS compared to Safari or Brave? On browserbench speedometer I'm getting 29.3 on Orion and 7.70 on Safari. I'd appreciate more comparisons.

macOS 15.6 / M4 Max

  Orion (0.99.135.0.1-beta) - 22.8
  
  Orion RC (0.99.135.0.1-rc)  - 22.6
  
  Firefox 141.0 - 30.7
  
  Chrome (138.0.7204.184) - 36.7
  
  Safari (18.6)- 41.6
Orion feels as snappy as Safari though, even as a beta. Firefox feels like the slowest here :shrug:

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by xacky »

Tried it, it suffers the same space in url bug that Mobile Firefox has, and they only are interested in bug reports from people who pay $150 for their Webkit skin.

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by xigoi »

gtirloni wrote: post #12
catlikesshrimp wrote: post #7

Why is going open source more difficult than not? isn't it enough to make sure all the code is legal and dump it as is? The community might even help cleaning it. Documentation might or could come at some point in the future.

Once it's fully open source, there are certain expectations and a lot of overhead involved in maintaining the community, governance, etc. I can understand if they delay it while they are still figuring out the initial vision and want to stay focused. There are many examples of open source maintainers burning out due to that overhead, and it seems Kagi might be stretched too thin right now.

Open source does nat mean that you have to accept contributions. Look at SQLite.
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