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Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by yuhong »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #38

This just further proves how disconnected Mark & Friends are from the real world. In real life, people talk very differently when they're: - around their friends - with their family - with their lover - in public - at work - online So this "one identity" + "real name policy" + "privacy is dead" nonsense is just disheartening. There will always be a need for humans to keep secrets, to have separate identities, to keep…

Yea, I am not for real name policies either. But I do want problems that would be caused by them to be fixed if possible, though not every one of them can be easily fixed, of course. For example, legacy PR based on one-way control of the message is fundamentally flawed.

This reminds me of one of my own HN submission, BTW: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4160528

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by viraptor »

parbo wrote: post #82
viraptor wrote: post #23

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Wow, they don't want people to spot that, do they :) I went to the signup page to verify before I posted my comment and completely missed the link, even though I was looking for it. I really appreciate them doing that - will check out their library today. Edit: Or not. They seem to know my city better than me since my postcode is both required and invalid...

What's your city and postcode? I can forward it to the devs responsible for the signup page.

Any postcode with letters fails apparently. This doesn't work for UK where letters are in all postcodes. "1" got accepted though.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by drhowarddrfine »

ams6110 wrote: post #49

If your only login option is Facebook, I won't use your service. Full stop. I don't have a Facebook account, and I certainly won't get one to be able to log in somewhere else.

Agree with both of you. I have a Facebook account because, one time, someone posted a video I wanted to watch and that was the only way to see it. Turns out the video wasn't worthwhile either. I, too, won't register with anything requiring Facebook.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by nyg_hakeem »

Seattle’s Pike Place is not a good place to ask such questions. If they want REAL answers, ask on these websites with facebook signup options.

I don't understand why people hate this option. If you don't like it then leave it, but it does help people like my friends and I.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by mrgreenfur »

bicknergseng wrote: post #61
nostromo wrote: post #5

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You might have missed the second half of the post: > This is a better test, because the signup screen offers both options with equal weight and we have over 70,000 organic signups.

Still wasted the first half of the article talking about the results of a 37 person survey. 37 people with no demographics info at all is so anecdotal that it's effectively worthless. As far as the second test goes, of course the general trend will be younger people who actually use Facebook will not mind... using Facebook.

I don't think that's true at all. Useability guru and generally big-headed man Jakob Neilson says you can get the majority of content from user testing as few as 5 people. Granted this isn't user testing, but small sample sizes are not pointless, they're directional.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by praptak »

Zak wrote: post #83
jiggy2011 wrote: post #64

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At the top of the page: "You need a Facebook account to register for Spotify" At the bottom of the page: "or Create an account using my e-mail address" Awesome design there!

Awesome design there! I think you meant that sarcastically, but it actually is good design from Spotify's point of view. They really want people to link their accounts to Facebook, but don't want to lose the potential users who steadfastly refuse to do so. Tailoring the language and design to encourage the desired choice is smart, even if it might not be quite right grammatically.

Grammatically? Being delibetately misleading is not quite right ethically.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by glesica »

codyromano wrote: post #75

This article raises interesting points about Facebook signups, but the statistics are meaningless because fewer than 50 users were surveyed.

So you're saying you didn't actually read the entire article... The data in the last 75% of the article were based on 70,000 organic signups split by beta/post-beta users.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by viraptor »

zevyoura wrote: post #37
viraptor wrote: post #20

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I chose Deezer some time ago... but Rdio sure changed lately - maybe I should give them another look. The last time I tried they had a poor choice in non-mainstream things, but it seems to have changed. (number of von zamla albums is my usual benchmark for the variety of available tracks) They still have weird listing issues though - having both Goran Bregovic and Bregovic, Goran for example.

Using any single artist as a barometer for library completeness is probably not a great metric.

I'm not saying it's something to rely on, but if the artist is: not American, not singing in English, not from the top hit lists, not from popular genre and published albums years ago... yet they get included in the library, that means the choice goes far beyond what you usually get to hear. And that's just a great thing, whether you like specific artist or not.
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