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Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

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Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

#91

Windows really is a quite horrible experience these days. Recently received a new workstation at work and it came with windows. I just wanted to check if it worked and had the correct configuration before wiping the disks and installing linux. But theres no obvious way to even get to the Desktop without signing in with a MS account. Had to install Linux without properly booting Windows, oh well.

Microsoft sends telemetry and displays ads all over Windows unless it is 11 Enterprise.

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

#92
post #42

install linux, get vmware pro for free and install win 11 in a VM. VMWare emulates TPM so it will run like a charm. Only thing you need is 8Gigs or so extra ram. plus you have the benefits of running windows in a VM. No backup problems, snapshot funcionality, etc etc. works absolute fine for me

vTPM only works if there's a real TPM available.

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

#93

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Does VS studio work fine too?

I installed Windows 11 and Visual Studio 2022 on my Mac Mini M2 and it works like a bloody charm. It's not as fast as my main Windows development machines, but it's 100% functional and operational. Bonus: I'm running Little Snitch on the OSX side, and it does a brilliant job of stomping all over Microsoft's telemetry. Edit: Running it under VMWare Fusion.

That's an Arm version of Windows though. The main reasons to install Windows revolve around the need to use Windows only x86/x64 versions of drivers or software.

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

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Is Windows 11 IoT a functional equivalent to the "real" Windows 11 for a PC?

It very much is, it just doesn't have the microsoft store installed by default.

And the LTSC version won't keep trying to upgrade itself. LTSC enterprise version of Windows or bust.

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

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post #8

I'm surprised that anyone is upgrading older hardware to Windows 11 in the first place. It's shocking how many performance issues I've come across. Explorer bogs regularly. I can't game and stream a video anymore due to some rendering change that was made in Win 11 (I forget the details).

File explorer take 2 seconds to load for me, FILE EXPLORER! It should be milliseconds. Microsoft engineers are asleep at the wheel. Edit: This is on a brand-new workstation BTW

The reason Windows gets slower and slower is to continue selling PCs. It never gets faster.

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

#96
post #13

W11 IoT does not require TPM https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise...

Is Windows 11 IoT a functional equivalent to the "real" Windows 11 for a PC?

Yes Store and everything

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

#97
post #13

W11 IoT does not require TPM https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise...

Is Windows 11 IoT a functional equivalent to the "real" Windows 11 for a PC?

If you have to use windows W11 IoT is the best version of windows to use. Zero bloatware. Only downside is you can't update an existing machine to it you need to clean install.

Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I installed Windows 11 and Visual Studio 2022 on my Mac Mini M2 and it works like a bloody charm. It's not as fast as my main Windows development machines, but it's 100% functional and operational. Bonus: I'm running Little Snitch on the OSX side, and it does a brilliant job of stomping all over Microsoft's telemetry. Edit: Running it under VMWare Fusion.

That's an Arm version of Windows though. The main reasons to install Windows revolve around the need to use Windows only x86/x64 versions of drivers or software.

There is no M2 version of Visual Studio. The version of Visual Studio 2022 I installed was x64. I have some other x64 software installed as well (Notepad++, AWS CLI, git, etc.) and all of them work just fine under the ARM version of Windows 11 running under VMWare Fusion.
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