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Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

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Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

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I don’t see the point in playing obtuse here.

Not playing obtuse, trying to get you to say why you think it's so crazy. Section 3 of this 2019 paper has stats on meth (desoxyn) prescriptions https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.23.22275471v...

> Methamphetamine is a highly addictive psychostimulant and controlled substance that has detrimental health consequences for chronic users

I mean, there's that.

Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

#92

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Not playing obtuse, trying to get you to say why you think it's so crazy. Section 3 of this 2019 paper has stats on meth (desoxyn) prescriptions https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.23.22275471v...

> Methamphetamine is a highly addictive psychostimulant and controlled substance that has detrimental health consequences for chronic users I mean, there's that.

That statement is true of all amphetamines.

Look, this is what I'm driving at, you appear to have some illusions that methamphetamine is significantly different than other amphetamines, or has some higher toxicity profile, more addictive, IDK I'm trying to get you to tell me your biases.

At that point, we can go look at the clinical literature and see what the evidence is.

Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

#93

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> Methamphetamine is a highly addictive psychostimulant and controlled substance that has detrimental health consequences for chronic users I mean, there's that.

That statement is true of all amphetamines. Look, this is what I'm driving at, you appear to have some illusions that methamphetamine is significantly different than other amphetamines, or has some higher toxicity profile, more addictive, IDK I'm trying to get you to tell me your biases. At that point, we can go look at the clinical literature and see what the evidence is.

Yes - why, as your own source says, are amphetamines prescribed at 4,000 times the rate of methamphetamine? Is there no reason for that? Why does the medical system have such a bias?

Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

#94

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That statement is true of all amphetamines. Look, this is what I'm driving at, you appear to have some illusions that methamphetamine is significantly different than other amphetamines, or has some higher toxicity profile, more addictive, IDK I'm trying to get you to tell me your biases. At that point, we can go look at the clinical literature and see what the evidence is.

Yes - why, as your own source says, are amphetamines prescribed at 4,000 times the rate of methamphetamine? Is there no reason for that? Why does the medical system have such a bias?

Many reasons, that's a different discussion.

Note that you've gone from this statement, to acknowledging that they are regularly prescribed.

> Imagining a doctor writing a script for meth is pretty amusing, and maybe if that’s not a cool enough drug, they can hand out some crack or something.

Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

#95

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Yes - why, as your own source says, are amphetamines prescribed at 4,000 times the rate of methamphetamine? Is there no reason for that? Why does the medical system have such a bias?

Many reasons, that's a different discussion. Note that you've gone from this statement, to acknowledging that they are regularly prescribed. > Imagining a doctor writing a script for meth is pretty amusing, and maybe if that’s not a cool enough drug, they can hand out some crack or something.

I assume in a country of 300 million people, every prescription drug is probably prescribed to someone. I’d say what I take issue with is “regularly”. I’ve known many people who have prescriptions for amphetamine, and zero who ever got a prescription for methamphetamine (though certainly some took it anyway).

The 4000:1 prescription number would seem to corroborate my impression that it is quite rare.

Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

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Meth is substantially more serotonergic IIRC. Can’t find the numbers.

Serotonegic? What does that even mean? For a given quantity, eg 1mg, of methylamphetamine vs d-amphetamine, the meth will release more serotonin?

Higher relative affinity for 5-HT receptors over DA.

Re: Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's meth

#97
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I just came back from Puerto Vallarta, and it's shocking how pharmacies advertise their drugs to tourists. I'm talking massive signs with every prescription med under the sun-- Adderall, Xanax, Retinol, you name it. All next to the HGH and testosterone posters featuring unreasonably muscular bodybuilders.

The shock you felt is a bit like the shock many foreigners feel when visiting the US, and seeing a consistent flow of television commercials with “Ask your doctor about X.” (Direct marketing of prescription drugs is banned in most of the developed world.)

But hey it makes people from New Zealand feel right at home
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