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New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by tamimio »

throw0101a wrote: post #88
akmarinov wrote: post #70

The European Commission should’ve implemented visas for the US as they require visas from some of the EU’s members. They made Canada waive visa for all members by threatening to impose visas on Canadians, but are too chicken to do the same with the US. The EU parliament has voted that it should be done multiple times, but the Commission refuses to act.

The reason why Canada imposed visa requirements on some EU countries: > Canada imposed the visa on the two countries as well as the Czech Republic to stop an influx of bogus refugee claimants among ethnic Roma applicants. > The Czech visa requirement ended last year, but Immigration Minister Chris Alexander said at the time the Romanian and Bulgarian ones would remain because of continued concerns over human smugglin…

> https://www.etias.ca/

> Details are automatically screened against a series of security databases.

Remind me of those blacklists that airlines and banks have, which you can end up in one for a comment in social media..

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by tommiegannert »

GracefullyBlind wrote: post #86
jacknews wrote: post #36

So, no longer visa exempt, in all but name.

Don't compare the process of going online and filling out a form to applying to an actual visa in a consulate

Most importantly: paying an exorbitant fee for adding a row to a database.

$21 for the chance of filling out the ESTA with the exact same data I used the last time.

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by Gud »

gpas wrote: post #56
shswkna wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany is not a good benchmark. Germany is scared of exploring the future.

Germany recent past taught its citizens to value their privacy.

On the other hand, the German government is spying on AfD, now one of the biggest parties in the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/03/german-intelli...

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by pintxo »

patrickk wrote: post #76
vidanay wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I visit Germany, I am astounded at how many of my German coworkers dislike fresh air in the office. A beautiful 25c sunny day with a nice breeze, and I opened the window near my desk. Within five minutes, someone has closed it and given me a dirty look (no, the air conditioning is not on.)

Germany is also the birthplace of homeopathy, which is why German health insurers cover this mumbo-jumbo to this day.

Don’t forget the invention of the healing practitioner (Heilpraktiker).

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by ozyschmozy »

Maybe I'm just blind, but I wasn't able to find what ETIAS stands for anywhere on this website dedicated to ETIAS (including under "What is ETIAS"). For anyone else wondering, it's "European Travel Information and Authorisation System"

This also makes me wonder (and doesn't seem to discuss anywhere) about "special" Turkish passports (green passports that government workers and their families can get that allow visa free travel to many countries including the EU). It's unclear to me if they would need ETIAS as well. And I imagine there's oodles of other edge cases like that where people will be confused and stuck at borders

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by askonomm »

RandomLensman wrote: post #71
askonomm wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Little legacy? I'm afraid you are not up to date on how hard it is to improve as an ex-soviet country with a large Russian population, many of them pro-Putin, who would do anything in their power to create corruption and prevent positive change

Little legacy tech compared to what was deployed in the West 30 years ago.

Fair enough

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by mk89 »

patrickk wrote: post #75
mk89 wrote: post #49

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In Germany you can pay by card basically anywhere - with the phone or watch as well in most/many shops as far as I know. Not sure all this criticism makes sense (no I am not German). There are also historical reasons why Germans are concerned about the possibility of being tracked, which apparently not everyone sees the dangers of.

> In Germany you can pay by card basically anywhere - with the phone or watch as well in most/many shops as far as I know. This simply isn't true, outside of large chains or supermarkets. Many smaller businesses like pubs, "kiosks", barbers, non-chain restaurants, and so on, are cash only. It's a combination of tax avoidance and trying to avoid the insane level of paperwork needed for bascically every aspect of life,…

> This simply isn't true, outside of large chains or supermarkets. Many smaller businesses like pubs, "kiosks", barbers, non-chain restaurants, and so on, are cash only.

I have a different experience. I pay by card even for My recommendation, though, is to always have some cash on you, especially if you don't know where you're going. But I would do the same in any other country in the world.

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by mk89 »

slau wrote: post #80
mk89 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany you can pay by card basically anywhere - with the phone or watch as well in most/many shops as far as I know. Not sure all this criticism makes sense (no I am not German). There are also historical reasons why Germans are concerned about the possibility of being tracked, which apparently not everyone sees the dangers of.

Last spring, I stopped at a nice brunch place in central Hamburg. The waitress spoke English and asked where we were from, etc. Usual touristy stuff. When it was time to pay, we were surprised to hear only local German cards were accepted. I couldn’t use Visa, Mastercard, anything. It never occurred to them to warn us. I had to walk around for 25 minutes on the hunt for an ATM to pay my due. What was a nice lazy Sund…

This I have to say can be more common. Not entirely sure what the reason can be, but some places do not accept Visa/CC but only the EC card (which is essentially the local debit card).

Meanwhile, more and more places accept NFC payment.

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by Tommstein »

diggan wrote: post #90
soco wrote: post #85

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Technically if your voted representative didn't get elected then indeed you didn't vote for this. But the elected person technically still represents you as an equal rights citizen. So yes, your representative can do things for which you didn't vote.

The agreement we have in a representative democracy is that even if someone who didn't vote wins, they still represent me and I accept this, as otherwise it wouldn't be much of a democracy at all :)

They said that they didn't vote for this, not that whoever passed it didn't officially represent them.
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