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Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by mariusor »

Hamcha wrote: post #65
mariusor wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good number of your bullet points are factually incorrect and inflammatory. But to reply in the style of Blow: what have _you_ released in the past ten years to talk all this smack?

Please don't adopt this line of reasoning. Anyone's argument doesn't have to stand on their personal achievements and public works. Just because you're not a chef doesn't mean you can't call one out if they put rat poison in your food.

Why is it that you want to tone police me (when I was actually trying to be facetiously funny) instead of parent with his virulent ad-hominem's towards two industry veterans which probably have done more for the field of computer science than most of us commenting in this thread combined (at least until Walter drops in).

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by Gibbon1 »

Modified3019 wrote: post #87
alwaysbeconsing wrote: post #83

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They seem to be specifically referring to the compiler error (as in, prevents compilation) for unused local variables. See discussion here: https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/335#issuecomment-10011...

Yeesh, that's good to know. With the dev response basically doubling down on ideology and ignoring reasonable protest, that's definitely an ecosystem to not sink time into.

My thought about unused variable is the compiler should assume someones trying to debug something and not optimize them out.

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by goostavos »

MattRix wrote: post #72
binary132 wrote: post #63

It’s silly that these threads instantly devolve into weirdly personal socio-ideological debates about the merits of the designer, his personality, the community, and his unorthodox approach to the language rather than even a technical discussion. It seems like cloutchasing all the way down. I also recognize that I am participating in said dynamic.

How is criticizing the creator of a project a form of clout chasing? It seems important to know the philosophy of the creator of a project, especially when that project is not yet finished.

I don't know (and really don't want to know) the philosophies of any of the people who've made most of the things I really like. The artist is different from the product.

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by anonymoushn »

mariusor wrote: post #90
lgas wrote: post #84

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I still don't see why it matters who the person is. Why not ask for evidence instead?

I didn't ask for evidence because I know for a fact that he is lying or misinterpreting things to an extent to be considered lying. Getting into the beta has nothing to do with being a good or bad programmer. It's not about Blow's ego or criticizing the language, it's about keeping a modicum of respect about a decade's worth of work and not being an ass. If the ad-homimem's didn't disqualify his whole post, the smell…

Can you only apply via Twitch chat or is there some other venue where you can genuflect before his greatness?

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by ohgodplsno »

mariusor wrote: post #90
lgas wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't see why it matters who the person is. Why not ask for evidence instead?

I didn't ask for evidence because I know for a fact that he is lying or misinterpreting things to an extent to be considered lying. Getting into the beta has nothing to do with being a good or bad programmer. It's not about Blow's ego or criticizing the language, it's about keeping a modicum of respect about a decade's worth of work and not being an ass. If the ad-homimem's didn't disqualify his whole post, the smell…

Right, I forgot to mention dealing with the most cult-of-personality community that has ever existed.

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by binary132 »

MattRix wrote: post #72
binary132 wrote: post #63

It’s silly that these threads instantly devolve into weirdly personal socio-ideological debates about the merits of the designer, his personality, the community, and his unorthodox approach to the language rather than even a technical discussion. It seems like cloutchasing all the way down. I also recognize that I am participating in said dynamic.

How is criticizing the creator of a project a form of clout chasing? It seems important to know the philosophy of the creator of a project, especially when that project is not yet finished.

I think when people compete to have the snarkiest take on a personality in a social context, it qualifies as low key cloutchasing.

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by MattRix »

goostavos wrote: post #94
MattRix wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is criticizing the creator of a project a form of clout chasing? It seems important to know the philosophy of the creator of a project, especially when that project is not yet finished.

I don't know (and really don't want to know) the philosophies of any of the people who've made most of the things I really like. The artist is different from the product.

I’m not talking about that kind of philosophy, I mean their development philosophies, the kind of things that would directly impact the directions they take the product in.

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by mariusor »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #96
mariusor wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't ask for evidence because I know for a fact that he is lying or misinterpreting things to an extent to be considered lying. Getting into the beta has nothing to do with being a good or bad programmer. It's not about Blow's ego or criticizing the language, it's about keeping a modicum of respect about a decade's worth of work and not being an ass. If the ad-homimem's didn't disqualify his whole post, the smell…

Right, I forgot to mention dealing with the most cult-of-personality community that has ever existed.

I fail to see where I said anything about Blow's personality. :) I can despise the guy but still be impressed with his work ethic and accomplishments.

If only righteous people are allowed to make things the world would be much poorer.

Re: Focus: A simple and fast text editor written in Jai

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Post by mariusor »

anonymoushn wrote: post #95
mariusor wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't ask for evidence because I know for a fact that he is lying or misinterpreting things to an extent to be considered lying. Getting into the beta has nothing to do with being a good or bad programmer. It's not about Blow's ego or criticizing the language, it's about keeping a modicum of respect about a decade's worth of work and not being an ass. If the ad-homimem's didn't disqualify his whole post, the smell…

Can you only apply via Twitch chat or is there some other venue where you can genuflect before his greatness?

No you can not apply via twitch chat, and again, there's no genuflecting. Stop listening the assholes with axes to grind. You can ask about it in twitch chat and probably get an answer, but I think you must show an interest more than "I heard about this thing on HN, I want to try it NOW".
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