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Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by ASalazarMX »

speg wrote: post #21

I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. This is a bad bug, but there are plenty other small things. Like why is “Join Lemmy” link still displayed when I’m logged in? Feels like unbaked software to me. That’s on top of all the multiple federated instances you need to wrap your head around. I’m not sure this can compete :(

Any platform will experience growing pains when their userbase increases dramatically. Even Reddit was frequently crashing when it acquired Digg's users, and still does from time to time.

I for one I'm very glad federated platforms are starting to pick up steam, and willing to weather the glitches. It feels like a return to the old Internet, where users had the control instead of a handful of megacorporations and investors/stockholders.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#92

Post by dragontamer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #72
dragontamer wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup proce…

> Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design Beehaw fine. It was deliberate and up front about its gating, and they processed within a day or two, which again is fine because that’s what they said they’d need. (There are still random login bugs and the content leaves much to desire.) The process of getting one’s head around why a server must be selected, what trade offs that entails and how to make a dec…

> The process of getting one’s head around why a server must be selected, what trade offs that entails and how to make a decision about it is almost proudly dismissed by the Lemmy community, which is frustrating.

I agree.

Lemmy community seems to be "toxicly positive". They ignore the server choice because they are worried that informing users about servers will make them leave for other webpages.

It'd be more appropriate if they were just honest about the Fediverse. Fediverse puts server-administrators front-and-center. Choosing a server means trusting the local administrators: not just for your username, but with your posts (ie: delivering them), your communities you build on that server, and your words.

We know that on Reddit, the admins/moderators can modify your words, shadowban you and other such behaviors. And I expect these tools to be employed in Lemmy (not that I know how to use them yet, but there's nothing stopping a few PostgreSQL scripts from accomplishing effective shadowbans or other such behaviors).

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For now, I chalk it up to the various community members feeling the need to grow and being naive. Its something I'm keeping an eye on, I'm trying to find 'the adults' in the community and trying to evaluate them myself.

But the only way to do that is to join up and make test posts / test discussions.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#93

Post by rgreekguy »

chongli wrote: post #7
ActionHank wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been planning a jump across, but have been waiting it out to see if they see the error of their ways. Thus far they just keep jumping from one awful talking point to the next like a toddler trying to rationalize bad behaviour.

I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to move (unlike moving to a new apartment or house). You’re not required to delete your Reddit account either. Am I missing something here?

I'm on the same plane as that guy.

I'm still holding on because... Lemmy sucks ;) Everyone is going there now, there are issues. Let's stick on Reddit, the feed is actually a bit better now that some less popular subreddits show up, with all others protesting in some way or another, and it's expected Lemmy will kneel under the big influx of users. There were such reports from the first or second day of "subreddits going dark," if I'm not wrong.

It will be there tomorrow, too.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#94

Post by marcosdumay »

garrettjoecox wrote: post #15

A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?

Well, I'd say that the graph completely explains the problem.

(But there are no minutes loading screens. Some 10s happen, not minutes aren't happening.)

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#95

Post by tedunangst »

garrettjoecox wrote: post #15

A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?

It's not pulling stats remotely every request, but probably hitting the database with a dozen queries. Caching and optimization is not often a priority in this space.

https://codeberg.org/thefederationinfo/the-federation.info

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#96

Post by marcosdumay »

speg wrote: post #21

I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. This is a bad bug, but there are plenty other small things. Like why is “Join Lemmy” link still displayed when I’m logged in? Feels like unbaked software to me. That’s on top of all the multiple federated instances you need to wrap your head around. I’m not sure this can compete :(

If that's on lemmy.world, they just announced that they discovered a debugging option they forgot enabled, and now it's working much better :)

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#97

Post by marcosdumay »

bogwog wrote: post #12
Paul-Craft wrote: post #2

~277k users, up from ~51k on June 1 319 nodes, up from 84 on June 1 Sure, this is nothing compared to Reddit's userbase, but we'll see in a couple weeks how big this will get.

It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.

Exactly. And there are some instances with people that really care about some subjects... a bit like Reddit 10 years ago. Those are prone to create something great.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#98

Post by class4behavior »

nologic01 wrote: post #87

Keep in mind this is not "lemmy vs reddit". Browsing through this index [1] you see moderators and users migrate also to platforms like kbin, discord, discourse and matrix I didn't even know about kbin [2] but it seems like another solid fediverse presence. This multiplicity of platforms (ruby, php, rust, python, go, elixir, you name it) that all adhere to a protocol is intrinsic to this "movement" [3] and it is what…

https://lemmyverse.net/ is also a good place for finding either Lemmy instances or communities while on https://fediverse.party/ you can find links to the most important resources regarding the main platforms on the fediverse.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

#100

Post by littlestymaar »

balder1991 wrote: post #51
distcs wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly! And also keep in mind that all of this is open source created by volunteers like you and me in their free time. Imagine you and me working on a side project like this during weekends. We will probably be focusing on implementing the protocol right, fixing all those rendering and mundane CSS issues, making sure the login and session management does not have security holes. Essentially get all the functional s…

Just some more info, they were working on Lemmy full time. Source: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_a...

Yeah, the two of them…
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