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The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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It's probably more complexity to exclude certain content than to treat everything the same.

Technical complexity aside, it’d be a business risk to accidentally mislabel a stream as not requiring DRM too.

Netflix already labels them. They show only their original content to users which are suspected to be behind VPNs. [1]

[1] https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/why-can-i-only-see-net...

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Netflix is designed this way because most of the time people don’t know what they want. So it’s a browse, not a search, interface. But it has search so I don’t really understand why it’s a problem to see things you don’t care about for a second before searching.

Because the search is pretty bad too, even when you know what you want and you're sure it's there.

How would you improve the search?

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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> The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU. To be precise it is "The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU using glibc." In other words, even though I have x86_64 cpu, since I'm on alpine, I'm fucked anyway.

What prevents you from ALSO having glibc?

When people say glibc, they really mean ld.so + libc.so + libm.so + nss + ...

And no, glibc really only work with its own dynamic loader (ld.so), and it has to be with same version.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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The mere existence of Widevine is a mystery for me. How sensible for Netflix is to invest into DRM at all? It's not a gamedev situation, where DRM lasts long enough to make impact on initial sales. Pirated Netflix shows appear on the torrents same day, and unless they have full-stack protection from the decoder to the screen, not much can be done. They seem to make user experience worse for nothing.

they do this because the board has a financial obligation to its shareholders to mitigate risk. they do this because the board also has a contract obligation to its content providers, artists and unions to safeguard against unlawful piracy.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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For some reason, my Jellyfin and Navidrome instances doesn't use Widevine (garbageware) in any way. Radarr, Lidarr, Sonarr, and the other Arrs work beautifully to control what media I want, get it, and store it appropriately. And the files I download from Usenet and Torrents work on any platform powerful enough to play them. I was treated like a criminal when legitimately buying media years ago. Already learned https…

> I was treated like a criminal when legitimately buying media years ago.

What happened?

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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getting what you want fast. It is literally that easy & netflix messes it up with being nondeterministic and screaming at me trailers I've never asked for. My autistic self is o.u.t.

Netflix is designed this way because most of the time people don’t know what they want. So it’s a browse, not a search, interface. But it has search so I don’t really understand why it’s a problem to see things you don’t care about for a second before searching.

Other services are browse-mainly, too, but are far less annoying than Netflix. Their UI being so goddamn obnoxious for so long, with apparently no intent to ever change that back to something sane, was part of why I cancelled recently after being a subscriber since the DVD days. (Yes, I used the "stop autoplaying, jesus god who could possibly want that" option they finally added, but it didn't seem to affect all platforms, or else they reset it at some point, I dunno and I wasn't paying Netflix so I could go find out how they screwed it up)

Like, it's terrible specifically for browsing, so its being oriented around browsing isn't really a defense of how shit it is. Sitting there chatting with someone about what to watch and you have to keep moving from thing to thing constantly or it screams over your conversation and/or shows you spoilery, distracting shit. WTF. A few others autoplay or play clips/trailers but without sound, which still sucks but is at least better. I shouldn't have to slam the mute button every time I return to the menu just to keep Netflix from doing stupid crap it shouldn't do in the first place.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Anyone know if Asahi Linux work on the MBAir M2 as a casual driver on the go?

It does indeed! Even the alpha GPU drivers work. Not working: speakers, power management isn't ideal and I don't believe Thunderbolt works, although I haven't tried. I'm not sure what a casual driver on the go is..

Thanks! I wasn't sure if was even going to bother qualify the statement further. Mostly use it for light browsing or just light coding, nothing substantial. Reading the docs of a newly released framework etc.

Some video-calls here and there, but I have other devices if I can use this purpose.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Excellent writeup. Asahi is my daily driver, but I've never had the need for either Spotify or Netflix. I guess the gospel of RMS and the FSF over the past few decades has steered me away from anything DRM-related.

> Asahi is my daily driver

I'm guessing you have an x86_64 Mac and not an arm64 Mac?

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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The mere existence of Widevine is a mystery for me. How sensible for Netflix is to invest into DRM at all? It's not a gamedev situation, where DRM lasts long enough to make impact on initial sales. Pirated Netflix shows appear on the torrents same day, and unless they have full-stack protection from the decoder to the screen, not much can be done. They seem to make user experience worse for nothing.

they do this because the board has a financial obligation to its shareholders to mitigate risk. they do this because the board also has a contract obligation to its content providers, artists and unions to safeguard against unlawful piracy.

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