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See you are presenting a logical fallacy - specifically the notion that "two wrongs make a right". Yes the US nonsense in Iraq was terrible, and a lot of people should be punished for it. How stupid do you think I am to try and pretend that it somehow makes Qatar a non-issue?
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I genuinely think it’s more about football than politics, but the politics are a real issue too and they have a larger attack surface
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Everyone knows FIFA is a deeply corrupt organization. There is also not much anyone can do about it. But I don't think "we need to care more" is a good mental model for the issue
You know, the FIFA is an association. It has members. The members either set the rules, or they are complicit. Now you say, oh, the members won't do anything. They are willing complicits. Guess what. They are also associtations and have members. In the end your local football club is a member of a local association, that is member of a national association, that is member of FIFA. Why not start there. Start an initia…
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It just happened, probably too early to come to any conclusions. I think the concern is that Wahl seems to have been a generally healthy person (although recently been feeling sick, according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33931689 ), wrote a critical article about a famously hard government, received a bunch of death threats and the day after drops dead. Again, too early to reach any conclusions, I guess we…
Sometimes I worry the world will end because nice people are so accommodating and understanding of evil.
Don't get me wrong, I worry about what you said too, but around me in life, jumping to conclusions and sticking with it regardless is much more common than what you mentioned.
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I don’t think that’s very unreasonable? In a analytical sense it’s bad of course, you don’t want workers to die if you can prevent it, but you cannot really expect me to care about every person that dies. This person is just very blunt about stating as much, or maybe they don’t care in the first sense either, and they wouldn’t change anything for the better even if they had opportunity to.
I think the issue may be that humans have social norms which dictate that we express that we care. If someone flouts that norm then it implies that there is something significantly wrong with them.
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Not really a story I have followed but the numbers I see after a quick search suggest this is another bullshit story. This website (first result on google, I don't particularly vouch for it [1]) suggests in 2020, 340 workers died every day from hazardous working conditions in the US. If you scale it to the population of Qatar, that's about 3 per day, or 20 per week. The guardian claims 12 migrant workers died per wee…
The next stat line says “4,764 workers were killed on the job in the United States.” in 2020. I’m not sure we’re given clarity here - rhetorically, ok, fine, but the math doesn’t line up quite this way.
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while I agree that Russia and the USA have done much worse than Qatar has ever done, I think people are more willing to be lenient to Russia and the USA on this because there’s some footballing history there. as more or less a marketing operation, Qatar have just turned up with a load of cash and built some stadiums in the desert, and then FIFA expects everyone to take it lying down I genuinely think it’s more about…