Twitter removed their diversity page some time between November 16, 2022 and now

Post by mikrl » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 11:59 PM UTC

bergenty wrote: post #90

shakezula wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pool is skewed male because of sexist bullshit. Computers used to be viewed as predominantly clerical and thus women were far more prevalent. And it’s patently false to assume it has to effect hiring quality at all.

Nonsense, in countries with higher gender equality women naturally flow to careers more in line with their strengths, tech is not one of them. Men and women are not equal.

>women naturally flow to careers more in line with their strengths

Explain what you mean by this, without making a hacked butcher job of it.

I’ve got a fresh drink and plate of snacks, I’m actually giddily excited to see how you do (and of course have the X-posts drafted out already)

Post by chitowneats » Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 2:22 AM UTC

jonathanlb wrote: post #67

chitowneats wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crucial piece you're missing is that the problem is further upstream. Most American commercial pilots are white men. Most job applicants are too. Forcing airlines to hire people who are not qualified just to meet a quota is the absolute worst way to solve this problem. In fact, it exacerbates it. What do you think happens when you force employers to hire people who are unqualified, and those people are all women…

There's a difference between having a quota and having a target. Targets can be missed, and reasons for the miss can be explored, e.g. were there sufficient qualified candidates in the pipeline? If not, what can be done about it. The hope is that over time, a target will be hit. That said, I agree with you that quotas are problematic. They are the wrong solution for the problem of lack of diversity.

> Targets can be missed, and reasons for the miss can be explored, e.g. were there sufficient qualified candidates in the pipeline? If not, what can be done about it. The hope is that over time, a target will be hit.

And if it's not, surely the company can find a hiring manager "a bit more motivated to hit company diversity targets".

If you run a mom and pop shop and need a new employee, sure, this strategy is great. Codifying it at major corporations creates all of the same bad incentives as quotas, just implicitly.

Re: Twitter removed their diversity page some time between November 16, 2022 and now

Re: Twitter removed their diversity page some time between November 16, 2022 and now