Psychedelic drugs take on depression

Post by thelittleone » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 2:01 AM UTC

mathgladiator wrote: post #82

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #75

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most of what you said is fair, but as a Taoist, I do not see a semi euphoric state as being a normal condition, or even a condition that can be a sustained for a long period of time. There’s a saying, that a strong wind does not blow all day. With these rushes of neurotransmitters, the receptor density on our neurons changes to adapt to them. This is a truth that we all need to understand. This is how the strong wind…

Ketamine has a nice rate limiter of $500 per session and at most once a month. I just had a booster, but I can't imagine myself doing it again for a while. I do believe a neutral state is ideal, but that requires highs and lows to define. For a variety of reasons, it's very easy to get stuck in a down position for a variety of reasons.

Post by FollowingTheDao » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 2:33 AM UTC

swatcoder wrote: post #77

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #75

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most of what you said is fair, but as a Taoist, I do not see a semi euphoric state as being a normal condition, or even a condition that can be a sustained for a long period of time. There’s a saying, that a strong wind does not blow all day. With these rushes of neurotransmitters, the receptor density on our neurons changes to adapt to them. This is a truth that we all need to understand. This is how the strong wind…

I admire your concern for people, but you might be getting a little bit ahead of the data when you start imagining others getting obsessed and develop your own fears for their sake. But I’d also mention, as a fellow student of balance, that it can be found amidst great highs and lows and not just in the absence of them. Acrobats exhibit tremendous balance. :)

Post by moomoo11 » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 3:27 AM UTC

loceng wrote: post #43

I've wondered: what are the chances that big pharma will attempt to suppress these medicines that compete with their patentable products, like seems to be the case with the majority of drugs caught up in "the war on drugs"?

Post by paskozdilar » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 5:11 AM UTC

politician wrote: post #86

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Growing up in a catholic household, what I mostly felt as a kid was cognitive dissonance and guilt... but to each their own.

Parenting is hard.

Post by jokoon » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 8:39 AM UTC

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if it's so dependent on the environment, then the drug just doesn't work in general, meaning it's not viable. if doctors are unable to find ways to make a drug work and predict it, then it's pointless. A 4 days vacation every month will have better results, and it's something most therapists and psychiatrist also say, that lifestyle matters. If a drug cannot do better than lifestyle change, then the drug doesn't work…

ah, interesting. So you have a medically qualified background to back up those claims?