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Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by justmythoughts4 »

On the one hand, this sounds like a good idea. On the other hand, every kid will find a way around it easily.

I would rather porn sites have to have a "responsible use" link on their sites that gives addicted users a way to find help, and a way to add themselves to a self-exclusion list. The self-exclusion list would essentially be an industry-wide temporary block, so you could say "I don't want to use porn for a month" or "I can only use for 1 session a week"

This is something that gambling sites already have to do, for example here's Betfair's site: https://responsiblegambling.betfair.com/

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by Dma54rhs »

hogrider wrote: post #54

Why are they so against minors watching porn when it's a normal part of sexual development?

There's a lot of different porn out there, are rape fantasies or common mother incest fantasies really part of normal sexual development?

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by consumer451 »

nybble41 wrote: post #85
consumer451 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know the shady data economy at all, but are there datasets out there which let you de-anonymize just via residential/mobile IP address or hostname? I just assumed there were, available to any very motivated party. And how effective and wide spread is browser fingerprinting to de-anon someone?

> I don’t know the shady data economy at all, but are there datasets out there which let you de-anonymize just via residential/mobile IP address or hostname? Sure, and they're built using data collected from shady sites which ask for personal information such as CC details under dubious pretenses (like age verification) and associate it with the visitor's IP address. These de-anonymizing datasets exist because of poo…

Thanks. Yeah, uploading PII to a something like a porn site seems crazy to me, but the industry seems to make a lot of money via card charges so maybe I am in the minority.

I also want to make clear I was not endorsing the policy outlined in OP. Just curious.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by justsomehnguy »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #75
justsomehnguy wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and tell me that most of their front-page content is a depiction of healthy sex between two loving adults Go to [0] and tell me how that is a depiction of a healthy whatever. Also please describe how the paywall on porn sites would help poor 13 y.o. chaps not to see this. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsm4poTWjMs

Thats certainly not as bad as most mainstream pornography, regardless your argument is a red herring. Sexual content existing on one platform isn't an argument against restricting access to platforms made for sexual content.

> Sexual content existing on one platform

LOL.

So you DO think this is a sexual content.

And the difference between 'other platforms' sexual content is the lack of an exposed genitals.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by MathCodeLove »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #94
MathCodeLove wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats certainly not as bad as most mainstream pornography, regardless your argument is a red herring. Sexual content existing on one platform isn't an argument against restricting access to platforms made for sexual content.

> Sexual content existing on one platform LOL. So you DO think this is a sexual content. And the difference between 'other platforms' sexual content is the lack of an exposed genitals.

What's your point?

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

hogrider wrote: post #54

Why are they so against minors watching porn when it's a normal part of sexual development?

I have the feeling it depends on how much your culture has been "graced" by puritan ideals at some point.

The rest of Europe has a much more relaxed cultural stance towards nudity that can be seen by minors.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by traveler01 »

ralfd wrote: post #13
onion2k wrote: post #2

Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.

Side note: Recently a teacher posted a thread on Reddit, that while discussing social media he mentioned Reddit and his class snickered. They teased him „Mr teacher are you a Reddit user?“ which he confusingly acknowledged to more snickering. He finally found out that teenagers regarded Reddit as a porn site like pornhub! Interesting perspective and maybe generational divide: if you are not a geek with special intere…

Reddit is also for memes.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

#98

Post by justsomehnguy »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #95
justsomehnguy wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sexual content existing on one platform LOL. So you DO think this is a sexual content. And the difference between 'other platforms' sexual content is the lack of an exposed genitals.

What's your point?

You identify both of it as a sexual content, yet one should be cash-blocked as it doesn't depict a healthy sexual relationship between two loving[0] adults and other shouldn't be blocked the same way because... it DOES depict a healthy sexual relationship between two loving[1] adults?

[0] should be sex depicted only between a loving adults? what about a non-loving adults who does that for fun and health?

[1] really?

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Post by MathCodeLove »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #98
MathCodeLove wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your point?

You identify both of it as a sexual content, yet one should be cash-blocked as it doesn't depict a healthy sexual relationship between two loving[0] adults and other shouldn't be blocked the same way because... it DOES depict a healthy sexual relationship between two loving[1] adults? [0] should be sex depicted only between a loving adults? what about a non-loving adults who does that for fun and health? [1] really?

You're arguing against yourself. I didn't say any of that.
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