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Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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ublock Origin also does the trick of blocking YouTube ads. And is free. Both as in free speech and in free beer. :)

Can video producers get free beer with 0 ad revenue?

Many video producers on YT have deals with sponsors. The ads are embedded in video and are not blocked.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)

> it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites The user-hostile design of web sites in 2021 is appalling. Even simple text articles or blog posts have become horrible. I was just reading a blog post linked from HN which featured 3 different popups: two modals and a modeless sidebar popup that follows you as you scroll. No, I don't want to subscribe to your ema…

Back in the day, when someone asked how to build a website and attract visitors, the universal answer was 'Content is King', to the extent it was basically a meme.

Obviously that was before 'Engagement is King', where content became second-class and Google Tag Manager empowered marketing teams to load up each page with whatever new widget or analytics or advertising system they could get their hands on.

I've been maintaining my own site and I actually enjoy building it in the most barebones way possible. It's just HTML and CSS. Any time I feel tempted to add any JS I spend the time on making a noscript equivalent as best as I can. I'd love to see a swing back to that style of web dev again (keeping it separate from web app dev).

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Does anyone know about an equivalent extension for Firefox / Chrome?

install ublock origin and put following filters ||youtube.com^$3p,frame,redirect=click2load.html ||youtube-nocookie.com^$3p,frame,redirect=click2load.html

Didn't change anything here.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Stopthemadness should also help you to avoid AMP, but also does a bunch of other stuff. Might be worth a look.

I had to disable Stopthemadness because while it does do some really useful things, it also caused a lot of problems.

I run it with recommend options + Show video controls and Stop autoplay and I have no issues other than occasional glitches because those two advanced options. What problems do you have?

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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> Picture in picture works just fine on Windows and Android without a YouTube Premium account. Is this something specific to iPhone? Google decided that in YouTube for iOS the feature would be premium only, at least for now. Maybe they feel iOS users are more easily monetized. Who knows. It most certainly isn't a limitation of the platform. > stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, s…

Yeah I just want to suss out that picture in picture is indeed working just fine for iOS users as it is documented as working by Apple. Do other sites activate PiP reliably? Note that PiP on mobile has always required (stupidly so) that you be in full screen mode prior to activating it. In my own experience, making picture in picture trigger on iOS on my own video apps seems to be fleeting. Can someone on iOS check i…

PiP works perfectly everywhere else so I assumed this is like when Google breaks Firefox and slacks on fixing it, where it might not have started as a deliberate attempt but someone intentionally keeps fixing it off of the development schedule.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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So they are charging people to remove ads so that the content creator doesn't get any ad revenue from their views? So ethical.

People have different views about ethics. Fortunately, there is no truth of the matter, so anything goes as long as we're internally consistent. I think ad revenue models are unethical. Promotion of extremist content is unethical. Privacy-invading data collection is unethical. Honestly, I think shitty content, in general, is unethical too. On the other hand, I think it is ethical for an entrepreneuring developer to c…

If you think the content is shitty, why would extend effort to circumvent the revenue model to access it anyway?

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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I don’t necessarily think ad funded content is bad. But YouTube seems to do it the worst. 2 ads at the start, sometimes they can’t be skipped. Ads in between at weird places. Now there are 2 ads at the end too. Spotify is ok. Ads. Bunch of uninterrupted songs. Ads. Like radio. Many Anime streaming services are similar. Ads bookend the content. YouTube could have spent time curating good content and building a platfor…

You know the content creators themselves can decide where they want to have ads? Also Youtube has even skippable ads, Spotify doesn't, but somehow Spotify does it better? Your points are highly subjective dear sir.

That is not completely true. There are many who are not deciding on what ads are shown and have no control over it.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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People have different views about ethics. Fortunately, there is no truth of the matter, so anything goes as long as we're internally consistent. I think ad revenue models are unethical. Promotion of extremist content is unethical. Privacy-invading data collection is unethical. Honestly, I think shitty content, in general, is unethical too. On the other hand, I think it is ethical for an entrepreneuring developer to c…

> Fortunately, there is no truth of the matter, so anything goes as long as we're internally consistent. I don't think that what you said is internally consistent. Now, we may disagree about exactly what you mean, but it sounds like you are putting forth some form of moral relativism, which has appeared in various forms over the millennia. Many ways of phrasing moral relativism have logical inconsistencies in them. I…

To quote Stephen Fry, moral relativism is just another way of saying "thinking".

Morals can come from culture, they can come from religion, or they can come from individual contemplation. Morals are axioms.

The one thing we can say for sure about them is that nobody agrees on what they should be.

Saying that advertising is a pest that should be actively removed is not even an uncommon viewpoint. The city of Sao Paolo famously banned all advertising.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Would you consider paying for YouTube and Spotify instead? Both are available ad-free.

I can easily afford that but I never want to pay a single penny to Google/Alphabet Inc. More of an ideological thing than economical, probably many have different reasons here instead of not being able to afford it. Also, "then don't use" is not an option either as almost all the content out there is uploaded to YouTube, so it isn't like same content is available on Vimeo/Facebook etc.

Without trying to sound too puritanical, your stance sounds like a way to avoid paying creators
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