I seem to randomly get "playback failed" errors when using this. Most of the times it works fine though.
Also, not sure if related but my phone seems to heat up quite a lot when using this. I am on an old iPhone 6S.
Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
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Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#22Lovely... > The removal of in-video ads. You can pay YouTube for ad-free viewing... not doing so and stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it" > Prevent YouTube from tracking your play/pause/seek activities. A little bit of a tinfoil hat issue here, but it's fair if this sort of analytics bother you (it doesn't bother me). > Restore picture-in-picture functionality. P…
Will someone, please, think of pure defenseless multi-gazillion corporations?!
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#23Lovely... > The removal of in-video ads. You can pay YouTube for ad-free viewing... not doing so and stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it" > Prevent YouTube from tracking your play/pause/seek activities. A little bit of a tinfoil hat issue here, but it's fair if this sort of analytics bother you (it doesn't bother me). > Restore picture-in-picture functionality. P…
I'm something of a master thief myself; my whole life when commercial breaks started on TV, I changed the channel or turned the TV off.
Yeah and I see how this is kind of a modern analog to that, but at least in that case the consumer of the media is making a tradeoff.
Perhaps a better analogy is DVRs and their fast forwarding (or completely automatic) removal of ads. This kind of tech will always be possible and I kind of doubt YouTube will make a loud fuss about it.
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#24Lovely... > The removal of in-video ads. You can pay YouTube for ad-free viewing... not doing so and stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it" > Prevent YouTube from tracking your play/pause/seek activities. A little bit of a tinfoil hat issue here, but it's fair if this sort of analytics bother you (it doesn't bother me). > Restore picture-in-picture functionality. P…
> Picture in picture works just fine on Windows and Android without a YouTube Premium account. Is this something specific to iPhone?
Google decided that in YouTube for iOS the feature would be premium only, at least for now. Maybe they feel iOS users are more easily monetized. Who knows. It most certainly isn't a limitation of the platform.
> stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it"
I never use YouTube intentionally. The service is a bit of the perfect example of boiling a frog, with one short skippable ad becoming multiple skippable ads becoming multiple unskippable ads becoming multiple unskippable ads plus interstitial ads, on top of the content itself almost always having sleezy "sponsored by" advertising content. It's simply remarkable how what was supposedly the new world that would break us free from the classic television model has somehow gotten so much worse.
That doesn't really address your point, but it is kind of tough to feel too sympathetic. The morality becomes...clouded.
> On the other hand the fact that the entire thing seems to be Apple ecosystem
Google decided to be extra greedy towards iOS users, so users helped solve it. Sounds like you're giving it a thumbs up.
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#25So they are charging people to remove ads so that the content creator doesn't get any ad revenue from their views? So ethical.
People have different views about ethics. Fortunately, there is no truth of the matter, so anything goes as long as we're internally consistent.
I think ad revenue models are unethical. Promotion of extremist content is unethical. Privacy-invading data collection is unethical. Honestly, I think shitty content, in general, is unethical too.
On the other hand, I think it is ethical for an entrepreneuring developer to charge users $5 to bypass bad faith actors, at the (questionable) expense of "content creators". And I'd feel pretty good about paying the $5 too.
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#26So they are charging people to remove ads so that the content creator doesn't get any ad revenue from their views? So ethical.
I subscribe to YouTube, so I already pay them. If I watched YouTube on my phone or my iPad at all, I would definitely install this. Realistically I almost always use my TV to watch YouTube. So it doesn’t matter. Purposefully breaking built in functionality (full screen, PIP, etc) to force people to use your app or to remove the functionality altogether is a dick move. Something that’s getting real common with Google.
I don't understand. I can load YouTube.com in my mobile browser, go full screen, and then enter my home screen and I get picture in picture just fine. It works whether I'm Premium or not. I don't need a mobile app for it. What has YouTube broken here?
I will say that I cannot use picture in picture while browsing another site in Chrome. That sucks, but I don't think that is YouTube's choice, that's just how the browser works (sadly)
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#27Bought it and it looks greater. However, I am wary due to the permissions where the extension "can read sensitive information."
I understand that there's probably no way around this, but still.
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I subscribe to YouTube, so I already pay them. If I watched YouTube on my phone or my iPad at all, I would definitely install this. Realistically I almost always use my TV to watch YouTube. So it doesn’t matter. Purposefully breaking built in functionality (full screen, PIP, etc) to force people to use your app or to remove the functionality altogether is a dick move. Something that’s getting real common with Google.
I don't understand. I can load YouTube.com in my mobile browser, go full screen, and then enter my home screen and I get picture in picture just fine. It works whether I'm Premium or not. I don't need a mobile app for it. What has YouTube broken here? I will say that I cannot use picture in picture while browsing another site in Chrome. That sucks, but I don't think that is YouTube's choice, that's just how the brows…
AirPlay kinda-sorta works from the YouTube player but it is glitchy as hell. It works way better from normal HTML5 videos.
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#29Lovely... > The removal of in-video ads. You can pay YouTube for ad-free viewing... not doing so and stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it" > Prevent YouTube from tracking your play/pause/seek activities. A little bit of a tinfoil hat issue here, but it's fair if this sort of analytics bother you (it doesn't bother me). > Restore picture-in-picture functionality. P…
> Picture in picture works just fine on Windows and Android without a YouTube Premium account. Is this something specific to iPhone? Google decided that in YouTube for iOS the feature would be premium only, at least for now. Maybe they feel iOS users are more easily monetized. Who knows. It most certainly isn't a limitation of the platform. > stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, s…
Yeah I just want to suss out that picture in picture is indeed working just fine for iOS users as it is documented as working by Apple. Do other sites activate PiP reliably? Note that PiP on mobile has always required (stupidly so) that you be in full screen mode prior to activating it. In my own experience, making picture in picture trigger on iOS on my own video apps seems to be fleeting. Can someone on iOS check in on alternative video sites to see if PiP is triggering reliably?
I don't use iOS, if you say YouTube is treating it differently than Android and blocking said feature, that sucks and they should change that for sure. Just seems like there may be problems on Safari/iOS (and the underlying WebKit framework that all or most third party iOS browsers use) more than on other platforms/browsers
Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags
#30So what is this, replacing it with an invidious-hosted embed?
I bought it. Here's the actual code it injected for a video: https://pastebin.com/fue6KWME