Soviet Union also successfully required that everyone will be officially employed.
Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Uber might be right here. EU labor laws protect a few but over a certain salary they are not very appealing. In Italy paying a net salary of 2,000 euros will cost the company 6000+. Things included like pension are not worth their cost, a private pension is better and cheaper, same for health services. It’s unfortunate but it’s true.
No way taxes are 66% of the gross salary.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Must is just as wrong as won't . The ideal solution is, drivers being given the choice. Wanna earn more (but less predictable), pay less tax, have less social security, work whenever you want to? Or do you want to earn less (but completely predictable), pay more tax, have unemployment security, work fixed hours.
Not sure why this comment is down voted but it's spot on. Honestly, it's pretty annoying that some people decide what others can do or can't do with their free time and their car.
More specifically, it's blind to the fact that the parent comment is about existing regulation which is being abused.
It's like arguing with someone saying "you can't drive at 100 km/h in a residential area" with "well I am a CAN person myself, and I don' think we should say CAN'T".
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Does there exist any company that allows their employees to work any number of hours they want, whenever they want?
What does that matter? Just because you can pick your own hours/work schedule, that doesn’t make you an independent contractor. At least it’s not determinative in the US under federal law nor any state that I am aware, but maybe that is the Dutch law and the court just got it wrong here
When I was freelancing, clients could not tell me at what time I had to be in the office, when I could live, or on which days I had to go, to avoid me being considered an employee.
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Uber might be right here. EU labor laws protect a few but over a certain salary they are not very appealing. In Italy paying a net salary of 2,000 euros will cost the company 6000+. Things included like pension are not worth their cost, a private pension is better and cheaper, same for health services. It’s unfortunate but it’s true.
No way taxes are 66% of the gross salary.
Re: Uber must employ its drivers, Dutch court rules
#96Soviet Union also successfully required that everyone will be officially employed.
This isn't mandating that uber has to hire these people, or that these people have to have jobs, it's that if Uber wants them to work an amount of hours equivalant to a full time emlpoyee then they need to not pretend that they're not full time employees.
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#98Bit out of context but I just came back from US (living in Netherlands). Holy flipping hell that place is full of cars. Literally everywhere. I mean I understand using a car upstate New York where things are further apart and everyone has a huge isolated villa. But do you really need 4 lane roads in freaking manhattan? Seems like regulating "car stuff" in general is always a good thing if you ask me.
Mandatory ride sharing by taxing gas, or heavily subsidizing public transport?
Uber would have an unique opportunity to group rides for small busses.
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I can't understand who would want to drive in Manhattan. Like where are they coming from and where are they going? Where do they intend to park when they get there? It wouldn't occur to me in a million years to attempt to drive into a metropolis like that. I see normal private cars driving through New York and London and can't imagine who is in them and what they're attempting to do that means their best route is thr…
> I can't understand who would want to drive in Manhattan. I think the idea is that people will drive if their tolerance level for slowness is satisfied. So the amount of traffic will always be high enough to look acceptable for some people, unacceptable for others. As for parking, in London there are definitely parking lots scattered around the city - can't speak for New York though. > Like where are they coming fro…
But in cities these places don't have parking outside. So where are they parking?