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Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Re: Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Post by arey_abhishek »

msravi wrote: post #32
arey_abhishek wrote: post #9

Fun fact. Uwe Hohn, the permanent record holder, is the coach for this year's Olympic gold medalist.

Actually, no. Neeraj Chopra trained with Uwe Hohn until 2019, but then (Chopra) asked for a change. His coach over the last 2 years in the run up to the Olympics has been Klaus Bartonietz. 1. https://sportstar.thehindu.com/olympics/tokyo-olympics/neera... 2. https://thebridge.in/athletics/tokyo-olympics-neeraj-chopra-... 3. https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/olympics/2021/aug/08/...

Thanks for the correction! I should have Googled that one

Re: Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Post by smabie »

eklavyaa wrote: post #19

India just had its first gold in track and fields in 100 years in Tokyo 2020, in Javelin throw, and What might be the intention to post this blog from 2012 now ? Its offensive.

I think only an Indian would make thar association.

Re: Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Post by SilverRed »

brainwad wrote: post #63
SilverRed wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rules are in place not to hold back speed, but to protect the image of cycling. A recumbent may be faster but it does not look like a bicycle to the average person and changes the image of the sport. Things like better shifters, lighter frames (within reason) more aero parts (within reason) are still allowed.

> lighter frames (within reason) The UCI's 6.8kg weight limit is much higher than what is achievable with modern materials. So much so that there are frame builders who can build you an "illegal" bike made out of _steel_: https://www.rodbikes.com/catalog/outlaw/outlaw-main.html

They do drop the limits over time. The reasoning is they want everyone to have very structurally sound bikes for safety. You _could_ build an ultra light steel bike but it might fail and cause serious injury.

With a minimum limit, no one feels the need to make their bikes less than perfectly strong. And when every OEM is making frames at perfect strength under the limit, they drop it.

Re: Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Post by vikiomega9 »

p1key wrote: post #53
vikiomega9 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source for the reason Johannes Vetter failed? Does not look like this was covered well in the press.

My source for this was watching the final myself. When I watched the broadcast myself it was clear to me that this was the problem. Also the (Finnish) commentators were very knowledgeable in the sport and pointed out the problem many times. I was unable to find a clip of his throws in YouTube, but here's a Google Translated article from a Finnish newspaper: https://bit.ly/3xvZWMk .

Thanks. Seems like a technical problem on his throw then? I'm not aware of the intricacies of surface and I assumed it was a standardized setup.

Re: Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Post by eklavyaa »

smabie wrote: post #92
eklavyaa wrote: post #19

India just had its first gold in track and fields in 100 years in Tokyo 2020, in Javelin throw, and What might be the intention to post this blog from 2012 now ? Its offensive.

I think only an Indian would make thar association.

Thats racism..

Re: Embarrassed by your Olympic javelin: did cavemen do it better? (2012)

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Post by brainwad »

SilverRed wrote: post #93
brainwad wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lighter frames (within reason) The UCI's 6.8kg weight limit is much higher than what is achievable with modern materials. So much so that there are frame builders who can build you an "illegal" bike made out of _steel_: https://www.rodbikes.com/catalog/outlaw/outlaw-main.html

They do drop the limits over time. The reasoning is they want everyone to have very structurally sound bikes for safety. You _could_ build an ultra light steel bike but it might fail and cause serious injury. With a minimum limit, no one feels the need to make their bikes less than perfectly strong. And when every OEM is making frames at perfect strength under the limit, they drop it.

They haven't ever dropped the limit - a weight limit was introduced in 2000 and hasn't changed since: https://cyclingtips.com/2013/08/the-6-8kg-limit/
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