After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

Post by lazide » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:49 PM UTC

tobias__ wrote: post #53

dmix wrote: post #47

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> He would demand people do random, pointless tasks for him to show dominance. Is this just speculation or do you know more examples where he did this? Given his background of bringing up his political activism during tech conferences he could have just been using it as background for his talks (which has included AI ethics). In that context I could see a connection to Russian politics. Still likely personal but not…

I feel if it was for a purpose like this it could be contextualized to the employee (which IMO is necessary if they're going to write anything that is useful for any purpose beyond personal interest)

Post by lazide » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:51 PM UTC

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horrified wrote: post #62

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The complaints in the article sound ridiculous. He wrote "the F* word" in an email? He fired people? He sometimes got angry? Maybe he just is a human being. People seem to feel entitled to godlike father figures as bosses now, who pamper them all the way in their comfy 9 to 5 jobs? Not saying you should scream at your employees, but humans can get angry and in general are not perfect. If it is too much for you, quit.…

>> Multiple people said Suleyman would sometimes scream at employees in group meetings and one-on-ones. This is the behavior you're excusing? If my boss screamed at me, I would tell them to fuck off. I'm shocked you think this is OK behavior, especially from a Google executive. People are human which means we sometimes lose our cool, but it also means, hey I'm a human so don't fucking scream at me.

Post by shadowgovt » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

Shindi wrote: post #74

horrified wrote: post #62

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The complaints in the article sound ridiculous. He wrote "the F* word" in an email? He fired people? He sometimes got angry? Maybe he just is a human being. People seem to feel entitled to godlike father figures as bosses now, who pamper them all the way in their comfy 9 to 5 jobs? Not saying you should scream at your employees, but humans can get angry and in general are not perfect. If it is too much for you, quit.…

>> Multiple people said Suleyman would sometimes scream at employees in group meetings and one-on-ones. This is the behavior you're excusing? If my boss screamed at me, I would tell them to fuck off. I'm shocked you think this is OK behavior, especially from a Google executive. People are human which means we sometimes lose our cool, but it also means, hey I'm a human so don't fucking scream at me.

Post by burnished » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

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“I crush people” is an unacceptable attitude for a manager to take regarding his own employees. Whether those employees can handle that sort of counterproductive adversity is irrelevant.

We don't live in a utopia. There are going to be people that say and do things that you dislike; That's reality. Instead of running to an authority figure to complain every time you encounter adversity, like a child, people need to learn to handle those situations...like adults. Someone acting mean or making an off color comment like this are a fact of life. No amount of safe spaces and down voting inconvenient truth…

Post by fortuna86 » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

xioren00 wrote: post #15

> “He used to say, ‘I crush people,”’ one former DeepMind employee told Insider The horror...