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Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by vvwvvwvvw »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #86
vvwvvwvvw wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A world peace as dictated by the US? No thanks.

I feel like you're making the mistake that the governments represent the people here. The peace is between the people, not the governments, its the governments that want to fight and want to keep the people apart so they don't realise the peace. If we all know someone everywhere in the world then how will our governments convince us to attack them if our friends live there?

I believe we're inherently tribalistic, and when push comes to shove, any love for your foreign friend will turn sour real quick.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by youeseh »

Ericson2314 wrote: post #67
nomoreusernames wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

also india has one of the worlds largest muslim populations, and india is also the most populous democracy in the world. most people forget that india has been one of the most vocal countries regarding the persecution of the chinese muslim population. more so than for example turkey, pakistan, saudi, even US and EU has not said much about the muslims being put into concentration camps. i would say blocking apps and s…

So you are saying the current Indian goverment cares more about the wellbeing of Muslims in Xinjiang than Muslims in India? (I don't want to diminish the awful things going on in Xinjiang, but I think giving the rest of what Modi does this would be more cynically down by the Indian government than you make it out to be.)

How did you arrive to this analysis of his comments?

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

#93

Post by cambalache »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #58
cambalache wrote: post #54

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> This is a bad analogy. What is with programmers and their utter failure to understand an analogy, is it their literal mind? Is it the lack of socialization when growing up?. "Data is the new oil" just means that it is an important economical and political asset, that's it that's the extend of the analogy.Nobody is thinking about API degrees, viscosity, sulfur content, etc. For the purpose intended the analogy works…

> What is with programmers and their utter failure to understand an analogy, is it their literal mind? Is it the lack of socialization when growing up?. "Data is the new oil" just means that it is an important economical and political asset, that's it “Data is the new oil” is used by Reliance, an oil company. It may be you who isn’t thinking deeply enough. The analogy is bad because oil has a specific geopolitical hi…

> “Data is the new oil” is used by Reliance, an oil company.

So what?, it is used by thousand of companies. Hell, the guy who supposedly come up with it worked for Tesco, so he should have used meat or milk.

> It may be you who isn’t thinking deeply enough.

That's the point, you get the general sense of the idea, maybe chuckle at the marketking-hype speak and move on, you dont try to over-analyze if iron, land or tulips were a marginally better option.

The rest of your comment will be sent to pseud's corner

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by nomoreusernames »

Ericson2314 wrote: post #67
nomoreusernames wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

also india has one of the worlds largest muslim populations, and india is also the most populous democracy in the world. most people forget that india has been one of the most vocal countries regarding the persecution of the chinese muslim population. more so than for example turkey, pakistan, saudi, even US and EU has not said much about the muslims being put into concentration camps. i would say blocking apps and s…

So you are saying the current Indian goverment cares more about the wellbeing of Muslims in Xinjiang than Muslims in India? (I don't want to diminish the awful things going on in Xinjiang, but I think giving the rest of what Modi does this would be more cynically down by the Indian government than you make it out to be.)

no im not saying that at all. i said what i said, you drew a simplistic conclusion based on what i said which fit your own narrative: "but I think giving the rest of what Modi does this would be more cynically down by the Indian government than you make it out to be."

not sure what any of that had to do with what i said, i was not trying to make out anything. i was simply stating that something that can be added to this perspective regarding OPs post, is that there are simultaneous forces at play. you do understand that two things can happen at the same time right? one does not negate another?

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by dartharva »

throw93 wrote: post #72

PayTM which is huge in India has Chinese investors like Ant financials and Alibaba. Ant being largest share holder with 29.71% ownership. So it’s curious to see the selective retaliation. At what point a company is Chinese? PayTM raked in immense profit following demonetization in India(overnight invalidation of several currency notes). And it continues to handle large amounts of financial transactions on daily basis…

Although these blanket bans do look like a direct offensive against the Chinese, they are not. Chinese capital is involved in a lot of India's tech sector, it would only be shooting itself in the foot if it actually went ahead and banned all Chinese products. For example, Xiaomi held the largest market share in India's smartphone market for several years. Almost the entirety of its software ecosystem is made in China, but you won't see the government banning MIUI outright.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by Quarrelsome »

vvwvvwvvw wrote: post #91
Quarrelsome wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you're making the mistake that the governments represent the people here. The peace is between the people, not the governments, its the governments that want to fight and want to keep the people apart so they don't realise the peace. If we all know someone everywhere in the world then how will our governments convince us to attack them if our friends live there?

I believe we're inherently tribalistic, and when push comes to shove, any love for your foreign friend will turn sour real quick.

I disagree, I think the tribalism is artificial and primarily bound the constraints of our ability to perceive reality due to our corporal form and its limitations. Fundamentally we're very empathetic but its all about being able to put the right information in front of the right people at the right time.

Its a matter of information logistics and applied correctly; people like people. Its when people quarantine information and selectively release it (e.g. only negative information) that tribalism can grow.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by edogg »

narism wrote: post #75
ericjang wrote: post #69

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are you sure that would happen? Make no mistake, I get that Western powers do have cultural and economic agendas (McDonald republics and such). But if you look at Japan and South Korea, they didn't really have significant protests or any "installed leaders".

What? The US basically wrote the Japanese constitution and Syngman Rhee was elected largely based on the backing of occupation forces.

Is that a bad thing? Seems like Japan is a pretty nice place to live.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by whydoyoucare »

rafaelturk wrote: post #11
fireattack wrote: post #9

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Probably just a relic from 90/00s? Page counter was very prevalent during that era.

yep. Looks like the 90s, is kind of cool. equally dangerous.

Not necessarily dangerous.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by valarauko »

nomoreusernames wrote: post #68
indie_india_dev wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This move is to counter Chinese apps which pump user data and other sensitive information to their government.

india has a lot of muslims, and muslims are not happy with the ummah being put into concentration camps. seems logical that a country with one of the largest muslim populations in the world, in the largest democracy in the world would start protesting against china.

While this may be the case, the Indian government was happy to turn a blind eye to the situation in Xinjiang till recently, when relations with China were good. Now that relations have soured, India is keen to highlight every stain on China's record.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by AntiImperialist »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #80
AntiImperialist wrote: post #70

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Japan has had installed leaders since the WWII. The occupying army is still there. South Korea has had installed leaders since the Korean War.

Hah what? The US hated Shinzo Abe for the longest damn time, didn't stop him from being re-elected multiple times. Also, its not appropriate to call the forces still in Japan an "occupying army". There is a joint forces treaty in place, and Japan has multiple times refused to amend Article 9 of their constitution In South Korea, they've deposed the previous President. Seems like the US is doing a bad job installing l…

Yes, there are forces which are fighting to kick out the occupying forces and there are forces keeping them in check. Long gone are the days of occupying forces marching and parading. It's shadow governments and pawns now.
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