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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by glangdale »

ThePreacherMan wrote: post #53

Are there any good information how advertising works in this network? From my experience its easy to convince "free-speechers" to buy things - think gold investment, self defense equipment, prepping, everything with the US flag colours on it.

A quick leaf through the ads in the National Review (back when I would occasionally happen across a paper copy) yielded a pretty good indication that right-wing stuff usually comes with a fairly good serving of grift.

And that was in a kinder, gentler age, when more of the arguments were about tax policy and the political management of South and Central America. In today's considerably more polarized era...

In an amazing coincidence, people who believe that masks have 5G chips in them to allow Soros/Gates to perform mind control (or is it via the chemtrails?) and that climate change scientists are being manipulated by Big Solar turn out to be easy to sell things to. Who would have thunk it?

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by m0zg »

pjc50 wrote: post #85
m0zg wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This has happened in all the lawsuits so far, I believe? You're being gaslit about that too, although yes, some motions were denied and some lawsuits were rejected outright. Watch the last link in my original post. It explains the propaganda barrage perfectly. There are a bunch of deadlines and appellate levels baked into this process for a reason. If Al Gore could hold things up for over a month over a few hundred…

No videos, give me some text reporting. Which lawsuits have (a) submitted evidence and (b) not had it thrown out?

https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/

Literally 10 seconds in DuckDuckGo. Notice that where lawsuits are rejected they are mostly rejected over lack of standing, and will be re-filed elsewhere with stronger evidence, or dropped outright due to insufficient evidence. This is what the legal system is for - to establish the veracity of claims, and obtain relief when due. Still more lawsuits will be filed next week. The current crop are just the small fry ones that could be filed quickly.

None of this constitutes "overturning democracy" in any shape or form.

I do recommend that you watch the video though.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by flyinglizard »

Grustaf wrote: post #77
gizmodo59 wrote: post #10

This whole thread is going to be: * I'm not a liberal but.. * I'm not a conservative but.. * Twitter may be a private company, but.. * Freedom of speech but... If there is a new view point on how to analytically break such news down that would be great to hear indeed!

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As a Jewish person I’d say that none of this political polarization is beneficial for us. It’s not that one side has intrinsically safer qualities for Jews.

With the work of ADL and many prominent Jewish figures in the past century, anti-semitism had kind of a special status where it’s taboo even when it’s very nuanced, on both the left and right sides of the aisle.

It’s drowning in the cultural discourse now. When 70 million voters are labeled “racist” - or at least supporting “racist policies” - the word loses its deterrence altogether.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by erezT »

ThePreacherMan wrote: post #53

Are there any good information how advertising works in this network? From my experience its easy to convince "free-speechers" to buy things - think gold investment, self defense equipment, prepping, everything with the US flag colours on it.

I think the idea here is more into logically thinking in a critical manner, and in the last few years especially due to wikileaks, some of your worst nightmares are real AF, and then Epstein happened.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by pjc50 »

sigmaprimus wrote: post #51
gizmodo59 wrote: post #10

This whole thread is going to be: * I'm not a liberal but.. * I'm not a conservative but.. * Twitter may be a private company, but.. * Freedom of speech but... If there is a new view point on how to analytically break such news down that would be great to hear indeed!

How about doing a thought experiment for a minute? Trump told what are generally considered incorrect opinions on corona virus prevention. Eg: Hydroxy Chloroquine works, masks don't and so on... His followers then parroted and posted these comments on social media and were promptly defunded, suspended and even banned for breaking Eula terms. Because Covid is serious and far too important to risk endangering others li…

Twitter spent a long time trying not to take action against posters, for all kinds of abuse and libel. What happened is that finally the endless lying hit a subject which personally mattered to those running the companies.

I'm sure they do want a forum to express their views and claim they're silenced. But they need to stop and think about why everyone else has deemed them so toxic.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by make3 »

renewiltord wrote: post #70

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

increasing the filter bubble is how you get ultra radicalized people

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Lammy »

dannyw wrote: post #19

1. Tech platforms are uncomfortable with certain viewpoints expressed on their platforms and seek to limit these viewpoints. 2. Instead of changing people’s minds (isn’t the evidence overwhelmingly conclusive that people rarely change political viewpoints?), people flock to “community bubbles” like Parler, TheDonald, etc where they feel welcome. 3. This marginalisation leads to increasing extremism; going from the li…

> 1. Tech platforms are uncomfortable with certain viewpoints expressed on their platforms and seek to limit these viewpoints.

Don't make the mistake of assuming these decisions are informed by anything except estimates of what will make them the most money.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by ceilingcorner »

Big Tech and Big Media really overplayed their hand this time, IMO. Millions and millions of people are now skeptical and looking for an alternative, even from Fox News. It might not be to Parler, or to the next site after that, but fragmentation will continue to happen. Facebook and media at large only have power if they have viewers, which is a far less stable resource than iron, or oil, or other corporate mainstays.

A decade from now, I think we’ll view the 2020 election as the tipping point.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by renewiltord »

Grustaf wrote: post #74
renewiltord wrote: post #70

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

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Haha, this kind of sarcasm is what everyone used when I said this about Voat.co. Went there to check if perhaps my prediction was wrong but no, it's full of crackpottery of all kind by disaffected losers.

So yeah, everyone is welcome to their parler too. I'm not signing up to find out.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by bartread »

make3 wrote: post #96
renewiltord wrote: post #70

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

increasing the filter bubble is how you get ultra radicalized people

And the problem is that sooner or later some of these people will start to act out their radicalized beliefs with very ugly results.
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