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Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by Shivetya »

ogre_codes wrote: post #56

One of the reasons I would love to have autopilot is because I have a history of dozing off at the wheel. Never so much where I've had an accident, but bad enough where I've scared myself badly. I don't want autopilot so I can actually sleep at the wheel, I want it in case I do . I'd vastly prefer if the car noticed I was inattentive that it notified me. My feeling is for long drives this would be a safety feature, b…

I am one of those drivers that on long distance drives will occasionally view a bridge in my rear view mirror and cannot recall passing under it.

Hence for me the system is insurance for the time where I am truly distracted. When I use my 3's driving feature on local roads I find I am more attentive as I am constantly looking for situations I think should confuse it but then I realize I am overthinking the situation far more often than not.

While I love to drive I do look forward to the day anyone can just hop in and ask to be taken somewhere and safely

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Post by colanderman »

snapetom wrote: post #86
GordonS wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - DRIVER_SHAVING > - DRIVER_ADJUSTING_MAKEUP > - DRIVER_APPLYING_LIPSTICK I've actually seen drivers doing all 3 of these. The shaving (with an electric razor, obviously) I only saw once, but I frequently see women applying makeup and lipstick.

A couple of friends of mine prototyped a site dedicated to distracted drivers on I-5 in Seattle ala the Highway 17 Hall of Shame. It was just too easy. My favorite, though, and I still have the pic, was a guy, who I presume to be a solider, driving a military truck with a big ol' binder open on his lap.

Best I've seen was a woman with a laptop open, between her and her steering wheel. (Morning commute on I-90 in MA.) I honked at her enough to shame her into putting it away at least while I was near her.

Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by colanderman »

pupdogg wrote: post #35

Comments on the site itself are pure gold as some are pointing out the various (mostly humorous) events that are not being actively tracked with their driver-facing camera. I will try to compile this list below: - DRIVER_ON_PASSENGER_SIDE - DRIVER_MISSING - DRIVER_PICKING_BOOGERS - DRIVER_SEAT_FULLY_RECLINED - DRIVER_SNORING - DRIVER_SHAVING - DRIVER_VAPING - DRIVER_LIVESTREAMING - DRIVER_ADJUSTING_MAKEUP - DRIVER_AP…

How about DOG_ON_DASHBOARD and DOG_IN_LAP. Seriously; you are operating heavy and deadly equipment. Keep your pets in the back seat at least.

Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by protomyth »

pupdogg wrote: post #35

Comments on the site itself are pure gold as some are pointing out the various (mostly humorous) events that are not being actively tracked with their driver-facing camera. I will try to compile this list below: - DRIVER_ON_PASSENGER_SIDE - DRIVER_MISSING - DRIVER_PICKING_BOOGERS - DRIVER_SEAT_FULLY_RECLINED - DRIVER_SNORING - DRIVER_SHAVING - DRIVER_VAPING - DRIVER_LIVESTREAMING - DRIVER_ADJUSTING_MAKEUP - DRIVER_AP…

I know of at least one person who would be tagged as DRIVER_READING_BOOK

Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by Reason077 »

iddqd wrote: post #63
ogre_codes wrote: post #56

One of the reasons I would love to have autopilot is because I have a history of dozing off at the wheel. Never so much where I've had an accident, but bad enough where I've scared myself badly. I don't want autopilot so I can actually sleep at the wheel, I want it in case I do . I'd vastly prefer if the car noticed I was inattentive that it notified me. My feeling is for long drives this would be a safety feature, b…

I hope as soon as EYES_CLOSED trigger loud alarms go off and the car slows down carefully, with or without autopilot enabled. You should probably stay off the roads if you’re having these issues and/or seek help to resolve them.

Bjørn Nyland on YouTube drives a lot of different EVs in Norway, and one of the thing he tests is the Lane Assist/Autopilot/driver assist disengagement behaviour if there is no response from the driver.

It seems like some cars will actually try to kill you - they'll beep a bit and try to alert you, then if you don't respond the autopilot will simply disengage. And drive off the road or into whatever.

The better ones (such as the new Polestar) go to great efforts to try and alert you (noise, flashing lights, tugging on seatbelt tensioner) then will finally activate hazard lights, slow down gradually, and pull over safely.

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Post by spike021 »

ogre_codes wrote: post #56

One of the reasons I would love to have autopilot is because I have a history of dozing off at the wheel. Never so much where I've had an accident, but bad enough where I've scared myself badly. I don't want autopilot so I can actually sleep at the wheel, I want it in case I do . I'd vastly prefer if the car noticed I was inattentive that it notified me. My feeling is for long drives this would be a safety feature, b…

Honestly if you're driving even somewhat regularly I'd highly recommend stopping that immediately and getting this completely figured out.

I don't even mean "well I think I know now how to tell when it's coming on and if I should pull over." I mean get it diagnosed, whatever.

I'm not sure how someone who knows they have this issue feels the least bit okay with going out on a road in a 1+ ton car.

Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by tobinfricke »

ogre_codes wrote: post #56

One of the reasons I would love to have autopilot is because I have a history of dozing off at the wheel. Never so much where I've had an accident, but bad enough where I've scared myself badly. I don't want autopilot so I can actually sleep at the wheel, I want it in case I do . I'd vastly prefer if the car noticed I was inattentive that it notified me. My feeling is for long drives this would be a safety feature, b…

Have you been evaluated for sleep apnea?

Microsleeps while driving are extremely dangerous. You should take this seriously.

Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by happytoexplain »

bArray wrote: post #77
happytoexplain wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what you mean when you say "it" was a joke, but also the point you were making was not a joke. What is "it" if not the point being made by the comment?

I'll quote my other comment here: > The _joke_ was that it mentions "DARK" as a method of > detecting whether somebody is damaging a vehicle: > > CEO Elon Musk said that it would be used to prevent people > > from vandalizing cars when they are being driven > > automatically on Tesla’s upcoming self-driving robotaxi > > network. > The _joke_ was that if removed from context, somebody could > insinuate that they are m…

I think I see what you're saying - but the replies didn't accuse you of thinking it referenced black people. They disagreed that it is an example of something which is likely enough to be misinterpreted that it should have had a different name.

Re: Tesla hacker reveals what driver-facing camera is looking for

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Post by myHNAccount123 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #67
ogre_codes wrote: post #56

One of the reasons I would love to have autopilot is because I have a history of dozing off at the wheel. Never so much where I've had an accident, but bad enough where I've scared myself badly. I don't want autopilot so I can actually sleep at the wheel, I want it in case I do . I'd vastly prefer if the car noticed I was inattentive that it notified me. My feeling is for long drives this would be a safety feature, b…

In some states your medical condition would prevent you from getting (or renewing) a driver's license. You need to talk to a doctor immediately because you're an active risk to other people on the road.

Yeah this persons actions are VERY concerning. They need to change their behaviour immediately.

To Ogre_... you cannot self diagnose by saying "I know when I'm feeling tired so I nap." Go To A Doctor NOW.

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