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Re: Color blindness

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This article was a fascinating and informative read for me.

The author (who I assume is male, I don't remember if he said so outright) kept repeating how colour is perceived based on the difference between receptor signals. I had learned that already so I kept thinking, "yeah yeah, I know"...

... Then he got to the point about edge detection, and suddenly I understood! I never thought before about how the difference is calculated between receptors that are not precisely co-located on the retina. Of course! Seems obvious in retrospect but I never thought about it. That also makes many colour-optical illusions make more sense.

If the author comes across these comments -- I have full colour vision and unusually good eyesight. Even for me, without magnification the stars are not colourful. Mars is slightly red, Betelgeuse is very slightly red, the milky way has a slightly bluish tinge, but for the most part, the stars are just white points. They do sometimes shimmer / twinkle briefly between different colours in a way that can make it really hard to say what exact colour they are, even if I stare at them. You probably notice that too, though. So I don't think your experience of the stars is likely to be that different, and you shouldn't feel sad!

Re: Color blindness

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the boxes are green, apart from the key which is bright blue, bright yellow, dark yellow, orange, red, and maroon.

Thanks, I got a bit worried :)

To be honest, if the boxes were smaller, I couldn't definitively say as I'm also red-green color blind. So I'm glad someone could clear it up for us.

One great example of the case where I absolutely cannot tell is when you have a LOT of tests in something like buildkite https://buildkite.com/features and most API status pages (many small green/yello/red circles/boxes).

Re: Color blindness

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post #63
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I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

I'm not colourblind enough to be "legally" colourblind (that is to say I don't have an accurate diagnosis) but I still feel your pain. I particularly hate status indicators that are orange/green, rather than red/green, because I just cannot tell them apart at all, where as at least the red gets a bit darker so that I can tell that "dim is off", for example. Nintendo seem to be pretty bad for this, at least with the W…

There are varying types of colour blindness. For example, there are the "opia" and the "omaly" types. For r/g and y/b these seem to have different ramifications.

Mostly the "omaly" types can get by without too much fuss since colour differentiation is more muted and the "opia" types affect more of the spectrum and more difficulty differentiating if they can at all.

It's more nuanced than that, but generally speaking it tends to work out that way.

Re: Color blindness

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post #91

This article was a fascinating and informative read for me. The author (who I assume is male, I don't remember if he said so outright) kept repeating how colour is perceived based on the difference between receptor signals. I had learned that already so I kept thinking, "yeah yeah, I know"... ... Then he got to the point about edge detection, and suddenly I understood! I never thought before about how the difference…

The author is Rob Pike; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pike

Re: Color blindness

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post #8

I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

That's a big reason for the order of lights in traffic lights.

New lights, around here, are also getting reflective frames, so that people can better understand the position of the active light.

https://pxhere.com/en/photo/265717

Re: Color blindness

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I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

I was flashing a router which seemed broken. Each flashing was failing. Then my brother came by and asked me if I was trying to trigger a failed flash? WTF? As you now guessed I was seeing these little motherfucker LEDs as red when they were green. I hate them with passion. And I work in IT, they are everywhere. I sent a few days ago a picture of my home fibre converter to my wife when she was out with friends so tha…

Do you reckon AR glasses fix this issue?

Re: Color blindness

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post #8

I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

I read the article and it really hit the nail on the head, speaking as someone that is also r/g colorblind.

I recently bought an Amazon Basics charger for my rechargeable AA and AAA batteries. My old one had a bicolor LED for charging and charged. The new one shows red for charging and turns off for charged. I love not having to ask my wife when the batteries are charged anymore.

Now I just live in fear of colored graphs and charts where the legend has tiny small colored squares so you can distinguish which line is which.

Re: Color blindness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not color blind and I've never noticed star colors. They just look white or yellow to me. It must be very subtle.

Try Mars? Not a star, duh, but it's glaringly red, even when observed in the city.

Mars is particularly bright right now too, it's quite striking.

Re: Color blindness

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post #91

This article was a fascinating and informative read for me. The author (who I assume is male, I don't remember if he said so outright) kept repeating how colour is perceived based on the difference between receptor signals. I had learned that already so I kept thinking, "yeah yeah, I know"... ... Then he got to the point about edge detection, and suddenly I understood! I never thought before about how the difference…

The author is Rob Pike; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pike

Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pike

Re: Color blindness

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post #15

I watched a youtube video where a color blind guy in his 50s was given a pair of EnChroma glasses for color blindness, put them on, and had a strong emotional reaction, like a deaf person hearing for the first time. Then I read the wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnChroma ) that says "they do not restore normal color vision, and claims in excess of this by the manufacturer have been characterized as…

I tried contact lenses for colour blindness as a kid (No idea if they were made by EnChroma).

They made everything seem so much brighter and more colourful, like someone dialed the saturation notch right up.

I didn't like it. Everything was so colourful it felt like it was giving me a headache. I guess I could probably have gotten used to it if I'd kept with it, but I just didn't believe it would make me able to recognise colours correctly - I mean, surely my brain was already pretty much hard-wired to comprehend course a certain way? And I remember they were expensive, and our family wasn't exactly well off, so I declined.

Anyway, as a middle-aged man now, I don't feel like it's been significantly detrimental to my life. For the occasions I need it, I use apps to check the RGB values of things, and I can roughly figure out colours, but in general, yes, it's an impairment, but just doesn't feel like it's a big deal.

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